Canon EOS 7D DSLR Review
Many DSLRs can perform not only the capture of large, high quality still images in the ultimate RAW format but some models can now also record Full High Definition video with 1920×1080 resolution.

For me, the asking price of the Canon EOS 7D and an appropriate lens is ‘reasonable’. Reasonable? At $2699 (note: this author is an Aussie so this is AUD$) for the body? Add the stabilised f3.5-5.6/18-135mm IS lens and you reach a figure of $3699 (AUD$). Still reasonable IMHO.
Canon EOS 7D Features
The 7D offers the ambitious photographer a host of operating features in a non-intimidatory package.
The CMOS sensor has 18.0 megapixels and can capture a maximum image of 5184×3456 pixels; in print-speak, sufficient to make a 44x29cm print at 300 dpi.
The sensor’s dimensions are 22.3×14.9mm so the 18-135mm lens would measure up, in 35 SLR terms, as having a focal length range of 28.8-216mm, using a factor of 1.6x.
Still image file formats are 14-bit RAW, JPEG and of course simultaneous RAW+JPEG. Full High Def video at 1920×1080 res is recorded in MPEG4 at 25fps or, at 1280×720 res, 50fps.
The ISO runs to 6400 with an expansion notch up to ISO 12,800! Couple this with a shutter speed range of Bulb, 30 seconds to 1/8000 second; X-sync for flash is 1/250 second.

ISO 100 f8 1/30 second. Top quality.

At ISO 1600 noise is beginning to give problems but this setting is still useable, in my opinion.

ISO 6400 and looking pretty nasty. Use if there is no other avenue.

ISO 12800 and I really think we’re out of gas. Noise is very evident and colour artefacts are highly visible.
Continuous shooting can be done at up to 8 shots per second. If you’re shooting JPEGs this means you can fire off a burst of 94 shots at the top quality; up to 15 RAW shots in a burst; and six RAW-JPEGs … all written to a CF card.
The EOS 7D carries a pop-up flash, useful for unexpected situations and not only the province of the happy snapper! At ISO 100 the flash has a Guide Number of 12 in metres.
You can enjoy Live View on the rear, smudge-resistant 7.6cm LCD screen or view via the optical turret viewfinder; unfortunately, the LCD screen is fixed and neither swings out nor rotates.
The new Live Face Detection AF mode identifies and captures faces in frame and focuses on them automatically. Other, intuitive features like Auto Lighting Optimiser and Peripheral Illumination help exposure.
When you power up or down, the system auto cleans the sensor by shaking dust off its surface. You can also trigger this cleaning action at any time — or disable it. Should you face the more serious problem of dust adhering to the sensor surface you can attach a tag to images (Dust Delete Data) and ‘erase’ the dust spots later with the supplied Digital Photo Professional software. This is only a stop gap until you can tow the camera into Canon’s service centre to have the dust removed.
Handling
With the 18-135mm lens attached, the camera weighs 1.5kg — so it is a substantial piece of gear.
With a strap over the neck to take the weight it feels good in the hands and if you’re a reasonably competent photographer you won’t find the array of controls intimidating.
Bordering the status LCD panel on the camera’s top surface are buttons for direct access to exposure compensation, white balance, single frame or continuous shooting, ISO setting, etc.
The rear of the camera carries the usual array: menu, info, replay, AF-ON, viewfinder zoom and a button for direct choice of RAW or JPEG shooting. Tucked in right next to the finder eye-cup is a lever to switch from stills to movie shooting; centred within it is the start/stop button for movies.
Exposure options available via the top mode dial include a fully auto mode, Program AE, shutter and aperture priority as well as manual. Unusually, the Bulb setting is also on the dial, along with three custom settings. Another dial position, Creative Auto Shooting, lets you alter an image’s brightness, depth of field, colour saturation etc … quite a novel approach and one that takes the exploratory photographer further than mere auto.
Once you’ve become familiar with the controls then you’re ready to deal with the finder menu itself. And here your choices expand enormously and where you must immerse yourself in the options: matters such as JPEG quality, choice of colour space (Adobe RGB or sRGB) and a host of other choices.
The lens is internally stabilised but you can switch this off (especially for tripod work) and you move from full AF control to manual focus.
Video
Some with extensive experience with camcorders will find shortcomings in using a stills camera to shoot movies … not least is the ergonomic factor and placement of controls.
A couple of cautions: if you want to select a specific ISO setting, place the camera in manual mode. Want to shoot macro? Get a macro lens … the camera has no inboard capability.
However, you can’t argue with a DSLR that shoots massive stills and Full High Def 1920×1080 video. Provided you write to a CF card with a read/write speed of at least 8MB/sec you’ll have no trouble with video data capture.
Capturing video when making a move between very dark interiors to full sunlight did not faze the system: it quickly coped with extreme changes of exposure.
Focus in movie mode is tricky tho’: you can preset the auto focus before you start rolling. If the subject approaches or recedes then press the nearby AF-ON button — this will correct AF to cope with the current focus zone. The problem with this is that midway through a shot it assesses and corrects focus with a brief blurring of the image; as well as this, the AF-ON button will assess/correct exposure with a brief burst of image brightness. In practice, you should use AF-ON only before rolling.
Alternatively, you can select manual focus on the lens: when shooting you have to continually monitor and correct focus; this would be an OK way to travel if you’re moving from one location to another — but no more.
Sound: the onboard mic captures your finger fumbling and fingering the camera controls as well as the incoming audio from the subject. An external mic via the 3.5mm input is the preferable route — and it captures stereo.
Quality
The image quality in the stills I made was superb in colour fidelity and sharpness terms.
Movies? Very sharp, accurate colour, good motion.
Great gear.
Canon EOS 7D Specifications
- Image Sensor: 18.0 million effective pixels.
- Metering: Evaluative and partial metering, centre-weighted; spot.
- Effective Sensor Size: 22.3×14.9mm.
- 35 SLR Lens Factor: 1.6x.
- Shutter Speed: 30 to 1/8000 second, Bulb.
- Flash: 12m Guide Number at ISO 100.
- Memory: CompactFlash card with minimum read/write speed of 8MB/sec.
- Image Sizes (pixels): 5184×3456, 3456×2304, 3888×2592, 2592×1728. Movies: 1920×1080, 1280×720, 640×480 at 24/25/50/60fp.
- Viewfinders: Optical pentaprism, 7.6cm LCD
- File Formats: RAW, JPEG, RAW+JPEG, MPEG4 (MOV).
- ISO Sensitivity: Auto, 100 to 12,800.
- Interface: USB, AV, HDMI.
- Power: Rechargeable lithium ion battery, AC adaptor.
- Dimensions: 148.2×110.7×73.5 WHDmm.
- Weight: Approx. 820 g (body only).
- Price: Get the latest price on the “Canon EOS 7D 18 MP CMOS Digital SLR at Amazon or at B&H.







94 Responses to “Canon EOS 7D DSLR Review” - Add Yours
January 11th, 2010 at 1:11 am
I believe the body price is $1,699 not $2,699. Thanks for the detailed review!
January 11th, 2010 at 1:27 am
The price is $1,699 as of today on Amazon, not “2,699″
January 11th, 2010 at 1:53 am
You’re way off on the figures. Seems you’re using the Canon 5D MII pricing for the Canon 7D, subtract $1000 from your estimates. That’s a HUGE difference in price. It’s $1,699 for body only from amazon http://bit.ly/5E359g
January 11th, 2010 at 2:33 am
Was this a typo? Canon 7D is available at $1699, and the lens $450. That’s way less than $3699.
January 11th, 2010 at 2:41 am
Your pricing is wrong at the top. B&H lists it for $1899 for just the body, not the $2699 price you quoted, which would be for the 5D Mark II.
January 11th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Thanks for the review, I have been looking at the 7D for its video features but looking at your samples I think I will stick with Nikon as the higher ISO samples seem a little more noisy than what my Nikon can do. Just my two cents.
January 11th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Thx for the review, but I do not really share your opinion regarding the high ISO noise. Practically Canon 5D/7D is less noisy at ISO 3200/6400/12800 than some other cameras at ISO 800…
Usually some noise is acceptable at low light conditions, eg. in concert photography. I rather prefer to have “some” noise than killing the picture (and disturbing/annoying everybody around) by using flash…
January 11th, 2010 at 3:21 am
Great review, except the prices quoted are incorrect.
January 11th, 2010 at 3:40 am
I think you have mistaken the price of the 5D here in your review as the 7D on amazon is $1899 with a 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Standard Zoom Lens. The current lens on the image above in your review isn’t the normal kit lens that comes with the 7D neither. I liked the review besides the incorrect price because at first as i am excited to see the review because i have been waiting to get this camera then i saw the price and freaked out. love your site and posts just check the details before hitting publish.
January 11th, 2010 at 4:59 am
For me, the asking price of the Canon EOS 7D and an appropriate lens is ‘reasonable’. Reasonable? At $2699 for the body? Add the stabilised f3.5-5.6/18-135mm IS lens and you reach a figure of $3699. Still reasonable IMHO.
Those are 5D Mark II prices for a body only and with a 24-105 f/4. check your numbers.
January 11th, 2010 at 5:27 am
@JP: Good point, I see $1700 at Amazon for the 7D body. B+H quotes the same with the body + 18-135 for ~$2100. I was about to say those prices are absurd, I could get the 5D II for less then that.
January 11th, 2010 at 5:42 am
^ Agree w/ JP. Those prices are not correct. 7d body only is 1699.00 and 1899.00 with the kit 28-135mm lens.
January 11th, 2010 at 6:22 am
yup, just found the body + lens online for $1799
January 11th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Love this camera.
January 11th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I believe he’s quoting Australian dollars (AU$) and not US dollars (US$). It would have been appropriate, given the international audience, to distinguish the type of dollars he’s using and not assume that everyone uses Australian dollars (same critique for any US citizen that assumes US dollars is all any one uses)
January 11th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
I’m pretty sure they are Australian Dollar prices quoted
January 11th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
I’m a bit disturbed by the substantial difference in brightness between the ISO 100 and other samples. Is this a problem you’ve seen in other images?
January 11th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
(were the samples taken in raw or jpeg mode? Was the same post-processing done on them if it was raw?)
January 12th, 2010 at 3:46 am
No mention of the wireless flash master capability? It’s the first canon camera body to be able to to trigger flashes wirelessly without the need of the 580 ex.
January 12th, 2010 at 4:42 am
Thanks for the review. This camera has been out for a while and there are numerous reviews available. It would be nice if late reviews, like this one, focus more on opinions on quality than on repeating technical specifications (and being incomplete at that!).
January 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
The prices are correct for Australian dollars..
http://www.teds.com.au/www/6/1001102/displayproduct/canon-eos-7d-15-85mm-is-kit–3408123_canon-eos-7d–5351898_.html
January 12th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
I posted this on another review but it is important enough to share here also.
I do use the video modes. When Hiking or shooting sports I shot some short clips. Now the H.264 videos are an improvement over the 5D Mark 2 videos. However, be prepared for some surprises when you start post processing or playback from a computer (not the camera).
The H.264 videos are very compute intensive and working with these files is more demanding than most folks probably realize… You will need a video editing program that can handle MPEG 2 as a minimum and preferably H.264 (MPEG 4). A tip here is to process your videos then build you final video file with quality set at 100% and use 2 pass encoding. Anyway I have produced some very nice videos with this camera but you will have to learn the ropes I assure you. Its not like shooting from a consumer camcorder most of us are use to.
I highly recommend that videos be shot from a tripod with a good gimbal head to allow smooth camera transitions. Hand Held shooting is difficult and shake is extremely distratcting in the final product. Its also best to plan your shoot and prefocus and then stop recording and refocus when necessary splice images in post processing.
Most computers are no where near powerful enough for H.264 real time editing! So expect to see a lot of artifacts and dropped frames with initial playback and previews on your computer. Rendring of fnal video is very slow!
Also note that if you decide to take a still while video recording you will encounter about a 1 sec droput in teh video clip everytime you snap a still.
January 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
My opinion of this camera overall.
A great camera and a technical leap over its peers.
The auto focus is wonderful and I love the options available in focus tracking on this camera. The 8 fps is great for wildlife (flying birds) and sports.
As for noise at high ISO of course there is. I shoot a lot of photos under ISO 400 and image qaulity is superb! In fact image quality is excellent up to ISO 1600 and then notcieable degrades. So using fast glass and fill flash is highly recommended to keep ISO below 1600 when possible.
If you shoot HDR use ISO below 200 for best image quality. If you have not tried it, shoot an HDR sequence at ISO 200 and then reshoot at ISO 1600, process the images and you will immediately see the problem.
So if HIGH ISO photography is your thing you will probably be happier with the 5D Mark 2
Also if your moving up to the 7D then you’re probably getting to be a pretty serious photographer so buy the best glass and filters you can afford. Dont blame the camera for poor lens and filter quality.
I shoot a lot of stills with my 7D and my canon 24-70mm f/2.8 lens and the images are beautiful.
(IMO) For the money the best proam camera on the market today.
January 13th, 2010 at 6:13 am
I have the Cannon 7D and I am amazed at the quality of the video that thing is capable of producing – much higher quality than most camcorders and similar to professional video cameras.
January 13th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Please DPS, either put up proper reviews of equipment in a timely manner (like less than 5 months after something comes out) that aren’t riddled with misinformation and typos, or just stop doing them. Your readers deserve better than this.
January 13th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I think the pricing may have been Australian Pricing which is what we are paying for it here RRP.
I have had my 7D now about a 6 weeks and just took it on a Cruise for New Years and it was awesome. Big change from my 400D. Highly Recommend it.
Video as started is a bit hard with having to focus the lens etc but after a bit of practise you would be able to get it down so that it has a more smoother motion etc. There is a company here in Brisbane, Australia – Photocontinentail that did the ad they put on TV using the 7D. You wouldn’t have a clue it had been done with it until they actually tell you that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83_p6erDWLw&feature=player_embedded
All in all I am very statisfied with my camera and the 17-55mm 2.8 IS USM i got with it. Absolutly brillant. Now just how to figure out how to use it properly and take some photos
Cheers
Mike
January 15th, 2010 at 3:39 am
Jeez, there are no fewer than 10 posts complaining about the author’s pricing numbers. Can’t anybody read anymore??? The author is very clear on this:
“At $2699 (note: this author is an Aussie so this is AUD$) for the body? Add the stabilised f3.5-5.6/18-135mm IS lens and you reach a figure of $3699 (AUD$).”
He’s clearly using AUD$, not US$. The lack of literacy is astounding!
January 15th, 2010 at 4:32 am
This is not a proper review. Never seen this kinda uncompleted review of a DSLR.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:21 am
Your positive review of Picture Quality is indication you have Beta version of 7D….and is not a common thing
Picture Quality on mass produce Canon 7D is very poor..After your exchange for a second it gets better but still madly and soft…after Canon service calibration gets good but far from excellent.
So it is great if you do not use..the mathematical Data, the specs are one of the best unfortunately Canon QC and manufacturing do not relay on the same specs sheet.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Appreciate the sharing of information on the camera, takes alot of guess work out of it. Thank You
January 15th, 2010 at 7:03 am
I like your open aspect to this camera, however who would buy this when for another months savind they could get a full frame sensor with all the attributes of the 7d and a lot more in the 5d Mk2.
The camera is good up to a point, pro use no, commercial use no, its a stopgap camera with a lot of shortfalls and Canon should be ashamed of putting it on the market at this price ( whatever you guys want to argue about ) Save a bit and buy the 5D you get so much more.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:06 am
IF we could get the 7D with 15-85mm lens here “down under” for less than $2500 I would already have one! lol
Unfortunately Barrie is correct with his prices!
I have managed to BEAT the price down to $3200 for the 7D body and the 18-200mm lens but it took a lot of sweet talking on my behalf.
Hence I’m willing (don’t have much choice) to wait for the rumored price drop in February. I guess it gives me longer to try and decide exactly which lens I will end up partnering the 7D with.
Canon must hate us Aussies…….. we seem to pay so much more for photographic equipment. Almost makes me want to move! Although not with the weather you guys are having lately!
January 15th, 2010 at 9:56 am
I am saving form my 7D now. I can’t wait. I am shooting with a 30D currently. I love my current gear, but this will be a welcome body.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
@Jane
It warmed up a bit, to about 30ºF.
18-200? Who’s the maker of that lens?
January 15th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@Eric,
It’s a Canon lens…….. just not L series. We can get the 7D in “kit” form with the 15-85mm and also the 18-200mm. The 18-200mm by itself sells for around the $900 mark on special!
January 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
I wonder who the OP is anyway? I don’t remember them responding to any comments. Regardless, I think us readers should take things with a grain of salt and evaluate sources without being too critical.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:24 am
@jane
Is that the 15-85 4-5.6 IS USM? My dad has the 17-85- it’s a pretty good lens. Wish it was faster, but it’s a good lens.
January 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Seems a little weird the fixation on price against quality and available assets of 5&7D, After shooting with both and owning one my money is on 5D mk2 if you are pro or semi and want a lot more for the future. lenses are asthetic as if you are canon you have a varied spectrum and work to that.
Magiceye Digital Imaging
January 15th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
It’s true, the 5D Mk II has the best image quality of all the camera’s in Canon’s line-up. If this is your primary concern (and you can afford the price), then it should be the model you go for.
However, not every photographer, pro or otherwise, needs the best image quality possible. In pretty much every other respect, the 7D is the better camera…superior HD movie modes, much faster continuous shooting, 100% viewfinder with on-demand graphics, more sophisticated 19-point AF system, built-in flash with wireless transmitter capabilities, improved metering, an electronic levelling gauge and a body that’s a little tougher. If you’re shooting action, the 7D is par excellence.
There are many pro photographers who shoot with APS-C cameras, so full frame isn’t necessarily the answer for everyone.
January 15th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Agree with Richard.
For a wildlife photographer who can’t afford 1D Mark iv this is the best alternative. As a wildlife photographer I want the cropped censor as well as high continuous shooting. ISO performance also not bad in 7D.
January 15th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
-Focus in movie mode is tricky tho’ *snip* The problem with this is that midway through a shot it assesses and corrects focus with a brief blurring of the image; *snip* a brief burst of image brightness. In practice, you should use AF-ON only before rolling. -
You can solve this by doing In-Camera Editing. Never walk through a doorway while “rolling” (or shooting) unless you intend to cut the footage out or are working with a camera assistant. Too many issues with color balance, focus and, exposure. In short, it requires an entire camera re-set. To learn how this is done, turn the sound off on the TV and watch a scene in which the DP moves In to Out or Out to In. Now with the audio off you’ll notice the cut(s). If however you are shooting a documentary and it’s “Run and Gun” style shooting then a little blur is fine. It makes your movie cinema verite and then it’s the subject and not the self-referencing of the camera work that keeps the viewers interest.
Just my2¢
Marcintosh
January 15th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
@Eric,
I believe it is 3.5-5.6 as per the lens in the picture at the beginning of this review. One of the 2 new ones Canon brought out at roughly the same time as the 7D. Most places are selling the 7D in kit form with either the new 15-85mm or the 18-135mm? (can’t remember exactly on that one). The second isn’t getting such a good wrap as the 15-85mm.
I am seriously considering the 7D with the 15-85mm as a kit and then purchasing a 70-200mmL IS f4 separately. I already own a 1.4 50mm. I think that should do me for a while!! And yes I’ve heard all the arguments for the 70-200mmL f2.8 IS but it’s just too heavy! I wouldn’t be able to carry that around for long.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Jane,
is it 18-135 or 28-135? I know there’s a 28-135 that I think was the kit on the 50D. Maybe there is an 18-135, I know canon made 3 new lenses, the 15-85, the 200 macro IS, and maybe that one.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Eric,
It’s 18-135mm. I have the 28-135mm…… that’s a few years old now. And you’re half right about the other 2. The 15-85mm was one but the new macro lens was a 100mm.
Anyway I still have over a month to wait until the promised price reduction from Canon……. according to the gentleman at JB HiFi!!
January 16th, 2010 at 12:42 am
I liked the review on this camera. 40 years ago I was into photography seriously for a time. Don’t know what happened or why but I got away from it and now at age 57 I want to get back into it seriously. This is the camera that I”ve been thinking of starting with. I have a Kodak digital point and shoot and I still have an old 35mm Minolta film camera that hasn’t been used in over 20 years. But this review help to confirm my decision of the Canon 7D. I found the camera in a kit at http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5620593&Sku=C930-1700
January 16th, 2010 at 2:24 am
yup you’re both right $1600 for US dollars… but the author is an Aussie, please read “note”. so aforementioned price is in AUD$… please read first before posting a comment. thanks and God bless to all!
January 16th, 2010 at 2:30 am
This is unethical on the blog…please do not advertise.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Richard,
I assume you are referring to Jims link? If you are not I apologise in advance.
I don’t see anything wrong with sharing links to sites that are offering the item that we are all discussing at a reasonable price.
He’s not forcing you to buy from them simply trying to help by giving you places to look.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Well that sound good..Unfortunately if we allow the commercial placement of the product we talk about ,the blog is going to be flooded with advertising and the purpose of this discussion will be lost in the clutter.
So that’s way such thinks like links to a commercial sale sites are consider unethical. And posting them is consider “illegal”..:-)))))… in the US..:-))))) ..Down south..Sorry I didn’t know they welcome.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:02 am
But let’s go back to 7D….I have third unit. In the process to find what is wrong with the picture quality I learn one thing..The camera strait from the box is totally out of whack..the factory settings forcing soft and muddy pictures, and it takes time and research to learn what is wrong with it…after reversing factory settings the camera start shooting better picture. I know that sound crazy but if you disappointed with the PQ keep returning to the service center…..and learn what the factory settings actually do…most of them making picture grainy even in 400 ISO….not to mention muddy look.
January 17th, 2010 at 5:02 am
I wasn’t trying to advertise. Everybody was talking about the price and I just purchased this camera and thought I got a decent deal and wanted to share it. I’m not connected with that company at all and don’t care where you buy from or much you pay. I was just trying to be friendly. Sorry
January 17th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Jim I’m sorry for jumping the gun…Thanks for being Friendly
January 19th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Hi Richard. Sounds like your having a difficult time with the 7D. Can you post (URL) ) some of the images with exif data that you are referencing? What lenses/filters are you using?
Amazing that three bodies exhibit the same problems. You reference the factory settings causing a PQ issue. Would you please post which factory settings are the main issue with the out of box PQ and what you decided to adjust the setting to improve the PQ?
I got one of the early 7D’s the first week they started shipping and it has performed wonderfully. I have lots of pictures posted on this site taken with the 7D and I have been very pleased with the PQ of my copy.
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January 20th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Own it. Love it.
January 20th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@ Jane
Try ngsystems who sell Canon Australia gear at very reasonable prices. Free shipping around oz to most places too.
15-85 is a sweet lens. I was tempted to go that before I went with the 17-55 2.8 IS USM cost me a pretty penny but when you have a mate who is coming from the states and can get it for 1080 instead of 1700 then thats a bargin
pm if ya wante more info
Mike
January 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Well the first Camera was so out of wack so nothing was in focus..no mater what you try…including manual focus…so after useless discussions with Canon service center I return for the new one. The second was better..but still focus was all over the plane except on target (spot focus ) and PQ was grainy in 400 ISO + muddy….and I try everything to make work …but no mater what, PQ was average ( worst than Canon 40D & Wife’s Lumix ) so it was time to return…Third after reversing company settings it is work ing OK but far from what you expect from 18MP…the first pictures in madness I erased….the second never post any where since they look poor..and I did int want any body to know I made them.:-)))) but if you wish I will post some under nick Name..:-))))
but on the third body I have some I’m not shame of so I will post them too. Back to the settings…first was the ISO setting..in C.Fn I :Exposure …the correct setting in ISO speed setting increments I set on 1:1
If you set for example 125 ISO your camera still shoots on 100ISO but is Gain Up and that result as a Grain and if you are also setup on Standard Auto Lighting Optimizer your grain in the shadows and mid tone (sky’s) will result in colossal grain and muddy PQ. Both those settings are turn on i factory setup…
They are useful for example in video recording but totally messing up your pictures…at least in my case.
And if you wonder what is wrong with my english..:-)) I’m Polish..-)))))) sorry.
I dit not shoot Raw… I’m old school and shoot thosends of jpg. photos…and do not have a time to proces them in RAW…
So at first let me post some of the new photos shot after changing settings on the third body.
I have Canon EF 17-40lL and EF 28-135
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?gallery=snFQ7
January 20th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Unfortunately I have no Idea how to post pictures on this forum and the above link is to all pictures some made on Lumix and Nikon…..so it is a mess sorry….the last one’s are from the Canon 7D.
Plus the “Go Gators” that is me..:-))))))))) photo by Lumix.:-))))
January 21st, 2010 at 1:01 am
@ Mike Senior,
Thankyou for that info and your comments.
Can’t work out how to “pm” people!! lol
Jane
January 21st, 2010 at 5:22 am
Richard:
Did you adjust the diopter knob near the viewfinder?
January 21st, 2010 at 8:42 am
I did but I do not have Idea how this is related to a PQ of the pictures??????
January 21st, 2010 at 10:45 am
The diopter knob affects the focus in viewfinder, how you see the picture. It doesn’t change autofocus, but if you manual focus and the diopter is off to your eye (it’s difference for everyone) then manual focus will be off. It’s the only thing I could think of.
January 21st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
..:-))) Eric good try..:-)) No it is not that..:-)) is no relation between Focus of your viewfinder and the focus of your lens,,:-)) the diopter helps you to adjust sharpens of your viewfinder..:-)) The truth is a sloppy quality control at Canon manufacturing..and rush to release us many units as possible before Christmas simply speaking GREED….Fortunately for me the main purpose of purchase was video..:-))) but muddy and soft photos drive me crazy..:-))) so I return them til I find OK one.:-)))
Now the lenses drive me nuts…the EF-S version maybe good for a photo but useless for video…the Canon L version only qualify for the task…plus Tokina and old manual Lenses from 6×6 Pentacon six and other old good manual glass..exempt Canon FD..for a technical reason.
So the whole experience is for me is like experiment..:-)) but video quality make the whole thing worth it.
Plus what I was able to learn in the process will be very usefully.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
I have been following all the 7D reviews and it is the same thing every time a new camera model come out to the market the one going out was better, 20D better than 30D, 30D better than 40D, 40D better than 50D and so on, what I think is a camera is a electronic divice and need to be used for awhile to get the best performance, like amplifiers or receivers in audio, all the new circuits need to be used to break in all the new parts.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
This is very interesting angle..:-)))) But I have serious doubts about that theory….more likely the People who receive the dreadful 7D Units return them or replace and after while the ratio good to bed changes plus we get use to muddy shots till the next release promising superb quality and the cycle continue..:-))))) If the camera in fact is good like they advertise than will be no need to make new one..but that happen only once before in photography history. The name was Leica ?) after you see the old negative of that camera the photography never going to be the same for you.:-))))))
January 28th, 2010 at 1:53 am
Doesn’t the Writer state his figure estimates are in Australian Dollars, not U.S. Dollars?
January 29th, 2010 at 3:27 am
The 18-135 is not what you want on this camera if you are going to get such a nice body. If all else fails get a 1.8 50mm, but if you want similar I would suggest the 24-135 which is much better IQ wise than the new 18-135. Even the Rebel 18-55 IS, kit lens looks better than the 18-135.
January 30th, 2010 at 7:45 am
at the risk of irritating those of you who are technically minded (I am not) I am hoping for some opinions/advice. I have been reading about the 7D until my eyes ache. I currently use the 40D and have an array of lenses that serve me well for most of my shooting – none of which are the L series. I am going to be shooting in an equine arena (or several) and most are poorly lit, flash is almost useless, and my subjects are on the move. My question is – should I get the 7D body and use the lenses I have, or keep the 40D and invest in an L series lens? I wish I could purchase both, but right now, its not possible. The video feature on the 7D is a nice bonus, but not necessary for me. Anybody? Thanks!
January 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
@Linda Gordon
Hey,
I have seen your photos, they are beautiful. To me, it looks like you’re doing very well with your 40D.
Which lenses do you have?
I’d recommend you to use your money on a good L lens. Maybe a 70-200 f/2.8 or f/4? Again, I don’t know which lenses you have.
January 31st, 2010 at 2:11 am
I would get the 5D Mark II, but only if your lenses are compatible with it. It will do much, much better in low light because it is a full frame. If your lenses are not compatible, the 7D is probably the best low light performer with an APS-C sensor. Lenses I would recommend something really fast, there’s a 24-70 f2.8, and a 70-200 f2.8. There’s also a 70-300 f2.8 but it’s not made my canon and it might be a little more pricey. You also might look into a prime lens, but using a prime you’d be limited by the focal length. But you could easily get a few more stops faster than a fast zoom lens.
January 31st, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Linda Gordon
And Sorry Eric, but the 5D II would be a poor choice for Lindas existing lens collection. Look at the MTF charts for any lens The bottom axis is distance from the center of the sensor to teh frame corner A full frame sensor carries diagnonaly about 21MM and a 1.6x crop camera sesor (l the 40D and 7D) carries 13mm Except for the finest glass there wil be noticable distortion going out to the edges of the image with the cheaper glass and a full frame sensor camera like the 5D . Also the 5D mach II has the old autofocus system and servo tracking as well as a 3.5 maximum FPS rate (slow for action sports) . A full frame sensor camera can also capture to much of the scene when shooting sports and require cropping of the extraneous detail to better isolate the subject. Of the three CANON bodies discussed the 7D is teh easy winner for Linda. (more on why later) ..
Of the lenses that Eric list the Canon 70-200mm F/2.8 is probaably the best for overall arena sports shooting
The major issue when shooting at wide open aperture is DOF. You get maximum light but the shallow DOF can kil you if the focus is not perfect.
Of course perfect focus is more difficult for fast moving subjects. The 40 Duses 9 point auto focus and you can set the tracking for AI servo but the low light is going to make it tough. The max ISO 3200 of the 40D wil help some but with a trade off in image quality.
I have shot many, many, nightime sporting events with a CANON 40D. My lens collection includes a CANON 70-200mm f/2.8 a CANON 100mm-400 F/4-5.6 a CANON 24-70mm F/2.8 a canon 17-40mm F/4 a SIGMA 50-500mm F/4 -6.3 and a SIGMA 24 mm f/1.8
The lens i used the most is the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 sometimes with a 1.4x teleconverter (100-280mm at F/4) So if you go the lens route that is my recomendation
Now for the 7D decision. My view has been to put your money into quality Glass. Bodies will come and go but your glass collection will stay. However the 7D changes that view a little. The 7D can be used to produce much better images that the 40D especially in sports photgraphy. Why?
The 7D has a faster FPS rate 8 fps versus 6.5 with higher maximum burst rates
The 7D has a much better autofocus system 19 point all cross points with a double precision center point (the double precision center point is only usable with fast glass f/2.8 or faster). The 40D and even the new 5D Mach II use the old 9 point autofocus system.
The 7D focus can be set in groups and you have much more opportunity to set the focus up in a manner suited to the event your shooting.
The 7D has a much better focus tracking design. Through the custom function settings you can set tracking so that it will continue focus tracking your subject even if a closer object comes between you and your subject.. The 7D gives you several options for setting up custom focus tracking. The 40D will switch focus to the closer subject. and provides no custom tuning of this important consideration
The 7D gives you ISO capability to 12,800 compared to the 3200 ISO of the 40D.
So the canon 7D functions can be a big benefit in night time sports photography.
My conclusion? Buy the 7D and start saving for that 70-200mm. I upgraded from the 40D to the 7D in October 2009 and have a lot of experience with both. I also conidered the 5D Mach II but for the reasons stated in my reply I purchased the 7D instead. I am very happy with my decision.
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January 31st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Richard About the diopter adjustment as ERIC stated. Just like teh adjustment on a set of binocuklars eerones eyes are a little diferent so the diopter lets a user adjust the view he/she sees.
Eric states that teh diopter adjustement is important only when “manual focusing” as the image you see through the view finder corresponds to the focus adjustment you make when focusing manually through the viewfinder and attached lens.
Diopter has no afect when using autofocusing..
Yes Leica is a classic and i believe for a Ful frame digital 35mm to compare to a 35mm film camera the MP resolution must be over 20MP (assunig a standard resolution above 4000 pixels per inch ). Of course the film camera is not limited in color by the bits per channel A/D conversion (14 bits per channel for the 7D and 5D. 14 bit conversion for R G B channels limits color capture to 16K hues per channel (RED GREEN and BLUE) Then there is also the issue of “signal to noise ratio” inherent to the digital electronics.
No wonder Film and especially the classic film camer and lenses still produce superior images today.
February 1st, 2010 at 1:38 am
Dhparsons
What you write is totally correct but conclusion are not….It is not any good reason to chose 7D over 5DM2 if you shooting Photos…I choose 7D only because the HD 24Pvideo options.
In photography a full frame 5DM2 outscore 7D in every sports ground a specially in low light
The same image shot in 3200ISO by 5DM2 and 7D is like day and night.
Auto focus in sports????? In low light???? since when this is a good idea??? In that environment your ratio out of focus to sharp is 90% ???…when auto focus misses it misses a lot and produces useless picture..Manual focus is always in focus…regardless of light and action. No video camera or film in the stadium uses autofocus..Accept those on stands. Photographers ? Well I have no idea what they use but I do by no means use auto focus in photo or film. It is not important in photography how many ISO or how many FPS, what is important how good they are (pictures). You cannot compare PQ of 7D to 5DM2.
But Linda didn’t ask if 7D is better than 5DM2.:-)))))))) She wants to know if is better to bay lens or 7 D
I recommend 7D….even if PQ comparing to 40D is questionable…but overall 7D is a better camera.
The only tip I can give to Linda is not to go crazy and try to make good picture right out of the camera….in low light shooting it is more important to have sharp pictures than correctly expose one …remember you can fix it in post.:-)) Photoshop do wonder especially in RAW so is OK to under expose for benefit of focus, shatter speed and low grain. Little bit of testing is necessary to find what works for you and feel comfortable when you shoot and know you can fix it. Remember is better to shoot on 3200ISO and push in Photoshop, than 6400 ISO and fix grain in post… hi ISO make picture muddy and soft and you cannot fix that. Read my post on setting up the 7D before you go shoot…?)) 7D is not easy camera to handle…it takes time to make it right….so make sure you have time to test it.
February 1st, 2010 at 3:03 am
Dhparsons
Ok it is clear to me is a large number of People there who still thinking the setting on diopter have something to do with the manual focus ..and you absolutely right ..Exactly the same amount what lens cup has to do with auto focus. You gays spreading voodoo ..The person who have blur vision still can tell when is less or more blur so please stop. Diopter is for your comfort and have nothing to do with focus of the lens.
Superiority of Leica was base on lens, Today’s lenses are poor quality for many reasons, one of them is Digital Photography…invention of digital corrections is the reason for lens manufacturers to drop the optical quality…Basic test by attaching “old” manual lens on DSLR shows instant picture quality improvement. Not to mention the mechanical excellence of old build lens. Recently I spend a lot of time comparing old with new and the results was devastating for a new generations….I know the specs are telling different story..just like movie critics talk about the movie…but picture do not lie. Contrast ,color and resolution are not even close….so good lens on DSLR it is important today just like old days on negative. Regardless of your diopter settings…?)))))))
February 1st, 2010 at 3:40 am
Ok I’m going to attempt posting photos made with the old Orestegor 300/4 attached to 7D


If you do not to see any photos that mean I fail.:-)
February 1st, 2010 at 3:43 am
Ok one more time I will try to post photo , made with the old Orestegor 300/4 attached to 7d.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:03 am
Ok I’m attempting post picture..:-)) 7D with Orestegor 300/4

February 1st, 2010 at 4:09 am
February 1st, 2010 at 4:10 am
February 1st, 2010 at 4:11 am
Ok if any body know how to post a photo let me know..
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4319614420_4c781b9664_o.jpg
February 1st, 2010 at 4:28 am
Sorry for this commotion but didn’t show up at first…. Now I know how……
February 1st, 2010 at 8:59 am
@ Richard
Whilst you are as free to express your opinion as everyone else I am asking that you refrain from any further remarks that some may find offensive……..
“You gays spreading voodoo ..”
February 1st, 2010 at 11:31 am
Thank you all for your posts – you have helped a great deal. I have a month before I have to decide, so I am going to see what kind of trade in I can get from adorama. If it’s a decent deal, i’m going to trade in the equipment I don’t use (a couple of lensesand my 20 &40D) for the 7D body and rent the L series lens for the shoot. If the deal stinks, I’ll use my 40D with a rented L series lens, and save save save $$$!
Thank you Chio for visiting my website
Thanks again everyone.
February 1st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Jane
I’m truly sorry but that is my English skills…it supposed to be “You guys”
February 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I think that the price for the body no reasonable. So expensive
Buy 40D or 50D and have fun and save money!
PS But I use 5D mark2, it is the best =)
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 am
Richard
No no I’m sorry for getting on my high horse…….. apology accepted…….. and not to make fun of your English but……. that was quite funny!!
Linda
Please let us know how you go…… both with the trade in and the shoot! I also visited your website. Very impressive.
I am frantically saving for a 7D……. then hope to trade in the 450D and a few lenses to help reach my goal!
February 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
Richard those shots in the comments are stunning!
This is definitley my next move up from the 40D, love everything about it and the high ISO is perfect for weddings (specifically churches). Despite the noise that has to be suffered, sometimes it’s just so dark and no one allows flash so my 40D struggles at times.
Thanks for a great post
really useful in making up my mind on my next credit card bashing
February 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Daniel
Thanks
It look as if on this forum only me have the heavenly 7D and is not impress by..:-)))) The photography part of it…
Daniel do not sell your 40D ..If you want I can tell you how to make stunning BW pictures with multiple flash heads in the church without flashing light…of course please take under consideration fact..My English might drive you crazy….on top of everything I have relentless dyslexia..:-)))))) But I’m the “Old School” photographer and have sleeves full of tricks and in view of the fact that you the first who like my pictures I will be willing to share some of it with you.:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well what the heck…us a proof of my good intention buy misspelling “You guys” I can tell this to everybody including the “Guys” ….but only one condition..Keep to yourself and Don’t call me crazy.:-)))
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:58 am
Richard
Do you have a website? Would like to se more of your work.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:24 am
Well yes and no..:-)) In mid 80′ I concentrate totally on Film and Video, photography become more like hobby than profession..The old work was so old like “Dino” way before Gore invent internet..So you will not find any of that good days photos ..Plus over 30000 negatives was destroy by polish secret police so I cannot develop new one
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)) And since I’m also web designer it is especially hard.
The invention of 7D allowed me to shoot both Video and Photo for the first time so is too early for a photo portfolio type site..
But I’m working on that..
So please give me a time I will complete the new site and proudly plaster photos all over the web…but at this point I’m in the shy mode.
If you will like to find out more about my film work, please Google Richard Pabis.
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Beauty and the Beast Biometar 2.8/80
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Guys – READ the article – the author has published his prices in AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS !!! Not every currency in the world is American !
February 4th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Chris
I’m glad you spell correctly…otherwise Jane will be on you case…:-))))) it still make me smile.:-)))))
So now you blame us for the fact that not every currency on the world is not American????
So like probably everybody notice the photo above is super macro…to bad I cannot show in full res..the detail of the Old Lens is outstanding..So I have supper long and supper short..Now I need something in the middle..I have Canon 17-40 L …but is not in the same class..:-)) so I wonder what do you use ..and how good it is ???
February 8th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I just bought 7D last week, and I find it absolutely superb. The stunning working speed of 8 fps and at an affordable price puts this cam on top. So the positive side of the cam is the speed and its affordable pricing.
The downside I find is the grain formation at 1600 ISO, on comparison with 5D MII its way down….5D MII wins.
I am using my 24-104mm f4 L IS with 7D and 17-40 f4 L with my 5D MII, I guess thats the best kit combination one could have, for having an effective focal length range up to 155mm.
I have placed my 7D shots in my website http://www.adambacker.com in the still life section, please do have a look at it.
Realise ur need b4 u buy ur cam, ie if u want to for a full frame or cropped sensor.
Good luck…
February 8th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
@Adam Backer
Indeed, the 7D is a great camera.
However, it is sort of unfair to compare its high iso performance to a full frame camera like 5D Mark II. The 5D has much bigger pixels and therefore less noise. You should actually compare the 7D’s noise to 50D and all previous models; that’s where the 7D is good! It has less noise than my 50D and less than any APS-C model from Canon. You can see the difference especially at ISO 1600 and above. I’d say it has 1 stop improvement over 50D.
Nice shots you got there, good luck
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