Working with a Model For the First Time

At DPS we get a lot of questions about working with Photographic models. In this post reader Andrew Mills from www.andyphoto.co.uk shares some tips on finding and working with models for the first time.
Hiring a model for the first time can seem quite daunting, possibly even scary! There’s nothing to worry about though, they are just people like you and me and many are more than happy to work with amateurs and professionals alike.
Where to find a model
The easiest way is to use one of the many portfolio sites such as Net-Model. These types of sites are dedicated to bringing models and photographers of all levels together, as well as other “creatives” such as make up artists and stylists. There are other ways such as placing an advert in a local paper which will not guarantee you will get a reply, let alone one from an experienced model; or you could go through a modelling agency. However, while you should be assured a reliable and professional model from an agency, it may work out too expensive for the first timer.
Most portfolio sites are free for basic use with upgrade options for more heavier users. So you do not have to invest in paying for an account to find a model.
Finding Your Model
You will usually have two or three ways of finding a suitable model – you can use the site’s search function and browse their profiles, then contact them directly. You can also post a casting call outlining your needs, either in a forum or a casting call section, or both, and wait for models to reply. Which of the latter two depends upon the site.
What to Look For
I know we should not be obsessed by looks in today’s world, but this is an area where looks do matter (photogenically speaking), so you need to be happy with the model’s look. Read through her profile – not only will it often contain important information that may be relevant to you, but you can also get an idea as to whether or not she is suitable for your needs. You are shooting for yourself, so apart from budget concerns, you can be fussy if you wish (you could conceivably hire someone like Adriana Lima if you can afford to!)
Is her profile current and her photos up to date? Check that she lives close enough to you, or is somewhere you are willing to travel to. Models will expect travel expenses, so the further away she is, the more she will expect. Does she have any feedback on her profile? Read it as it helps you establish how competent and reliable she is.
Is her complexion and hair good? Although, this is not always reliable as the photographer may have “cleaned them up.” It may sound overly fussy, but I have found myself spending hours on photos where I’ve had to remove blemishes in post production.
Does she do the levels (the “level” to which she will shoot, whether it’s fashion, swimwear, lingerie or more adult related) you want to shoot? If you want to do lingerie or glamour, there’s no point in contacting a model who does not do these levels.
To Pay (and how much) or Not to Pay
You can sometimes be lucky and find a model who will work for you for just the fun of creating images. However, most models expect remuneration for their time and skill as a model – oh, and let’s not forget (which many people do) their own expenses which include make up, keeping their hair well maintained and keeping their wardrobe current. At this level, these things are usually sourced and dealt with by the model. You can start hiring make up artists and stylists later on if you wish, but it can add a significant cost to a shoot.
You can expect to pay for their time in either good old fashioned cash, or by TFP/TFCD (Time For Prints or Time For CD). The TF* option means that you supply the model with a number of images from the shoot for their portfolio either as a print, or as digital files on a CD or delivered to them online. However, unless you have photographed people before, do not expect to do TF* shoots as most models only do them if it benefits their portfolio, or they are beginners themselves.
As a beginner, I would recommend you pay for an experienced model. You will have no pressure on you to deliver satisfactory photos to her, and you will not have to worry so much about directing her into flattering poses – she should already know how to do this. You can also find that as she has worked with many photographers already, she can pass on some tips to you – never be too proud to accept advice from a model.
How much you pay them depends upon their look and their experience, and the “level” you are shooting. For fashion or portraiture you can expect to pay a lesser experienced model about £10 an hour – an experienced model expect £15 – £20 an hour on average, with some costing more. As a general rule of thumb, the less clothing the model is wearing, the more you will pay…
What to Say, or not to Say
Models expect to be contacted, so don’t worry about writing to them. Be up front with them (never lie or be pushy, there’s no need to), tell them you are a beginner and what you want to do and achieve in the shoot. Now, they may not have said in their profile, but some higher end models maynot work with amateurs as they will not want less than flattering photos of themselves floating around. Do not be offended or defeated if this does happen (or they just don’t reply) – just move on and contact someone else.
Some things to make sure about before you shoot:
- Confirm her rates and travelling expenses.
- If you are working to a higher level, confirm she is happy to work to the level you want.
- Confirm dates, times and locations.
- Confirm that she can do her own hair and make up or if you are supplying a make up artist and/or stylists.
- Discuss and confirm what clothing/outfits she will bring.
How Long?
My first shoot was for four hours and I did find that a little too long. I’d recommend 2 hours for the first shoots you do – it’s long enough to allow for her to get ready, set up, and do a range of shots, yet short enough where you’re not as likely to run out of ideas or steam.
Please note that if you do book a model for four hours, and only shoot three, she will still expect to be paid for four hours (unless you have made some agreement on this beforehand).
Where
The model will feel safer and more relaxed in a public place with a newbie photographer who isn’t known and doesn’t have a reputation built up. A good choice is a local park, which will have loads of props that you can use whether it’s a tree, bench, statue or even a wall covered in graffiti.
You could use a studio, but this will require you have knowledge of studio lighting or the help of someone who can set up the lights for you. A studio can cost upwards of £25 an hour, although many do discounts for four or more hours.
What to take
Your camera (obviously), a lens of around 80mm in focal length for head and shoulder portraits), plenty of memory cards, fully charged battery(ies), drinks and/or food if it’s a long shoot. One extra that you will find invaluable is a reflector – you use this to shine some light back into the model’s face to avoid dark shadows. It does also help if you have someone to hold the reflector, but it is possible to manage without.
During the Shoot
These are some tips on what to do and what not to do:
DO NOT TOUCH! This is the number one rule: Keep your hands to yourself. It may be okay with some models to adjust her hair or something slightly, but if you need to do so, ask first! Something like “do you mind if I adjust your hair?” is all you need to say. If she says no, let it drop and let her do it.
- Do talk to her, ask her questions, try and make her laugh. It will help her relax and you’ll get some better facial expressions.
- Do be courteous. You don’t have to go overboard, but your reputation will depend upon how you treat her.
- Do leave her some space and alone if and when she is changing outfits.
- Do show the model a pose by doing it yourself. If you have a pose in mind and the model is not sure what you are after, adopt the pose yourself.
- Do not be crude – what seems an innocent joke to you may come across as crass and insulting to her.
- Do not push her to do levels she does not do. If she does not do lingerie or art nude or higher, don’t push the issue. There are plenty of models out there who will do the levels you want, so there’s no point in alienating yourself.
Model Releases
This can be a sticky area and causes many arguments as to whether or not one is needed.
The short answer is that in the UK, you do not need a model release in most cases. If you are not selling for stock or are just publishing to your portfolio (or general editorial use), you do not need one. If you plan to sell an image to a magazine or for stock, they will require a model release. If you are shooting a higher level a model release can help prove the model was happy to shoot to that level and that she is 18 years of age or higher.
And Finally…
Remember to have fun!
Resources
- Net-Model – http://www.net-model.com
- Purestorm – http://www.purestorm.com
- Model Mayhem – http://www.modelmayhem.com
- Net Portfolio – http://www.net-portfolio.co.uk
- Star Now – http://www.starnow.com




22 Responses to “Working with a Model For the First Time” - Add Yours
December 17th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Another great site which you forgot to mention is Model Mayhem: http://www.modelmayhem.com. This is where I first started out my focus in model photography. Many models here (or rather good looking individuals trying to get a foot in the door) will work for trade as you both learn together. Once you start building a competent portfolio you can begin working directly with agencies and through referrals.
Also I would note too that you mention “she” for all your models, when there are some great male models out there as well. :)
December 17th, 2009 at 7:41 am
A big advice would be: DONT TRY TO HIT ON THE MODEL!!!
And just for the record, I believe this rules does not apply to male models.
December 17th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Very timely post. Just worked with FOUR models for the first time this past weekend. It was a “workshop” where the organizer hired the models and photogs paid $100 to shoot for four hours. The organizer provided studio space, lighting, scenes and MUA (make up artist). the models came with several outfits coordinated with the scenes.
It was a great introduction to fashion shooting. It relieved the pressure of having to set everything up yourself. Also because there were other photogs there you could watch what they were doing and compare notes. Obviously it was also much less expensive that having to set it all up on your own assuming you had access to a studio, lighting, scenery MUA and could keep four models busy.
I agree with all the suggestions of the author. Most important is respect the model’s limits and space. If you respect their professionalism, they will reward you with an energetic and imaginative session.
Here is a link to a great place to find models and other fashion photogs :
http://www.modelmayhem.com/1409358
Will have shots up in a couple of days….
December 17th, 2009 at 8:59 am
One thing I’ve found is that schools for make-up/hairdressing have eager students who would love to help you out. They need photos for their portfolios as well, and many of them see this as “on the job training”, leaving happily with a few prints from the shoot. (The prints where the make-up/hair is in focus, of course.)
A fantastic asset, that should be in the back of the head both on newbie and more professional photographers.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Model Mahem has been a very good source for me, and even with my not so extensive experience, I get approached by models wanting to work with me.
I started out shooting models with a photography group, which has the advantage of no pressure on you (the photographer) at all and hopefully some friendly, more experienced photographers around that you can either mimic or even better ask for tips. The downside is, you may not get the best angle to photograph the model and the model’s attention will be divided, you’ll here a lot of, “Monica, look here. Monica, here please.”
One thing that can help your reputation when working with models is getting them the images as soon as you can. You get to see the shots right away, but they are stuck waiting.
When shooting a model by yourself, you have to be comfortable with giving orders to pose this way and that, and you have to know what you want, which can be a weird feeling telling someone else what to do if you are not used to it. I know I always like it when the model brings her own ideas to the shoot and requires minimal direction on my part.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
This is a timely article for me.
I’m a new member to Model Mayhem, and I just booked my first shoot with an amateur model for this Friday. I’m really excited for it, and she seems like a really fun, outgoing woman. It should be a lot of fun.
Thanks for the tips in this article!
December 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Wow, any advice on male models?
December 18th, 2009 at 12:29 am
This article really seems geared towards male photographers and female models. As a female photographer, I would appreciate seeing a broader perspective on this topic at some point. I have also modeled a few times, and I will affirm – please do not bring a pervy vibe to the shoot.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Good article and thanks for the resources. I’m planning on listing with a couple early next year. I’ve primarily been a wildlife/nature photographer, but want to branch out. Last summer I ran ads on Craigslist a few time for TFCD models. I got some good replies, and also a lot of no-shows. I live on a wooded and landscaped acre, and have a few spots in my yard that blend perfectly for photos, so that’s where I’ve been shooting. A few weeks ago I was looking out my 2nd floor window at the backyard and saw a perfect blend of fall colors so I popped up another Craigslist ad and got a model for the next day. I don’t pay anything for the models, although I did offer gas money a couple times.
Usually I do a little editing on a couple of my best shots, but give the model a copy of most of the .jpg files. I also print at least one 8 x 10. If they like a different shot, I’ll edit that for them, too. 2 hours is about the right length of time, too. I do have them sign a model release and I state in the release that I will not sell their picture without their approval, but I will use it in my portfolio. I tell them that if I want to sell their picture, I’ll compensate them.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:24 am
Another modeling site is ModelBrigade.com. They give you 100 slots for photos in your portfolio. Most of their models seem to be in the South or West. Not much in the East.
Dick Sallee
SalleePhoto
December 18th, 2009 at 5:01 am
I just have one tip….when photographing a model (or anyone really) try not to get so caught up in your photography that you start treating your ‘model’ like a subject, rather than a person.
They ARE human and have feelings so always talk to them and be polite and communicate clearly to him/her what type of poses etc. you’re after. If you model feels uncomfortable it will show in your photos.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:06 am
I have been a big fan of http://www.greenmartini.com for networking with models. the site focuses on networking over idle chatter and other sites that seem to be glorified dating sites. i also like that networking on there also focuses on support people like make-up and hair. You really need thier support to make the best work possible.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Hi,
I’m a female photographer and while I know what Vermont means about the article being slightly geared towards male togs the majority of togs shooting with models tend to be male (in my experience). I shoot a fair amount with models and find on the whole I have a big advantage as a female tog. The models relax much more quickly with me, are not as cynical and they know I’m not going to hit on them. I also find it easy to demonstrate the poses I want (as suggested in the article) for them to copy than many male togs I’ve worked with (although it is always very entertaining watching them try!).
I would like to reiterate Vermont’s comment about not bringing a pervy vibe with you! I know some fabulous models who won’t work with certain togs because of the suggestive and sleazy comments. You’ll get far more out of models if you’re professional and treat them kindly and they’ll want to work with you again.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Such an excellent article, I don’t rememeber reading anything better on DPS, keep up the GREAT work.
All the Best.
Simmessa.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Did I read that right? You brushed over the idea of a model release?
Secure your rights as a photographer. If you don’t someone is going to profit from you and you will have nothing to say about it.
Every photographer, if considering on ever using their photography, or want to limit someone’s use of your photography needs to get a signed release (every single time). And if your surroundings are noticeable and have an owner, get a location release! I’ve had friends that were approached 5 years after the fact for money- they just had to dig out the signed release form. Without it they would have been in BIG trouble, and so would the business that those photos were being used for.
Besides that very important fact, I think this is a great post.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:01 am
I have not had a great experience with Model Mayhem. I found that most “models” do not get back to you. They are quite flaky. I have tried to organize many shoots and have been left hung out to dry shooting landscapes because they didn’t show up.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:18 am
About the gender perspective. I’ve shown this article to my girlfriend, who is also a tog, and she thinks the author should have added a disclaimer at the top. Something along the lines of:
“This article is written by a male photographer, who mostly shoot female models.”
When it comes to shooting male models, I would think most of the same rules apply: Don’t touch, don’t be rude, don’t hit on the model, etc… and, I would think that you could get male models in your area through a quick search on-line.
December 20th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Thank you so much for this article.
I have just started to shoot fashion and beauty shots with some models from Model Mayhem.
I have found most of the girls to be very professional, yet I have had one or two – who when they showed up looked like they had a night on the tiles the night before, or who have sent me a message to say they need to cancel, yet find on Facebook, that they are out getting drunk with mates.
So, buy hiring a pro model , to just invest in your time and hers/his for a photo shoot, is a good way.
Its a shame that the very few models who are un professional, ruin it for the rest of the pros.
December 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Excellent information. One thing that has worked for me is to make sure my wife accompanies me on the shoot. It really makes things more comfortable and provides extra feedback. Of course, you need a wife that’s very creative, professional and an excellent conversationalist ;)
December 21st, 2009 at 2:59 am
Thanks to everyone for the replies – this was my first article and I was worried at how it would be received.
@Ron (model releases) – I only skimmed over this area as this was mainly aimed at amateurs and I didn’t want to scare them off with a lot of legalese, and in most cases, they won’t need one. They do have their place, especially if the photographer plans on selling his or her photo for publication (or is publishing themselves), and/or is working at more adult levels. I am writing another article about this subject and copyrights, and will go into it in more detail and explain what I mean better.
As far “no shows” and “flakes” – sadly they do happen, but this is why you should take the time to read their profiles and feedback, as well as talk to them beforehand. You can get a good idea of what the model is like and it will help mitigate these problems. You’ll also be less likely to have problems if you pay for more experienced models, rather than do TF* shoots just to save a bit of money. I’ve never had a “no show” and have only had a couple of models cancel at the last minute.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:28 am
Could anyone in the comments please adda little bit of what model release is about, how to do it, etc.
As you mentioned many of us are still very amateur at this but I think I’d like to know when to start giving out model releases. One more thing: is it ok to just have a verbal agreement on the photo (in the case of a TFCD work)?
May 13th, 2010 at 3:03 am
Good points. I shoot mostly fashion and portraits and find that if you are shooting with an amateur or even an experienced model, meeting them beforehand, either for coffee on a separate day or the day of the shoot- gives them a chance to know you better and definitely relaxes them and makes them more comfortable for when you shoot. I’ve also found that some models are a little awkward and static and don’t really warm up until they’ve done a first round of shoots first. Usually after an hour of shooting and a break, they’re much looser and comfortable posing.
Modelmayhem is a great site- i’ve found lots of people on there and a lot have found me. I’ve never had any problems…
A lot of people that aren’t that experienced yet will offer their time on a TF basis to build up their portfolio, which is nice if you can’t afford to pay anyone. This works with makeup artists (MUA’s) as well- and ideally, you will need an MUA if you want your work to stand out. Some models can do their own makeup but you really want someone who knows what they’re doing or can design makeup for the type of shoot or look you want, as well as the hair, if needed.
And definitely above all, being professional, complimenting them, being patient and not acting like a creep goes a long way to repeat shoots and good word of mouth for you. :)
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