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Old 02-23-2009, 09:00 PM
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Default Triathlon - Depth of Field & Focus Issues

I've just bought a new lens (for a relatively new camera) and I am attempting shallow 'DOF' effects. The picture below is from a set of 15 on my Flickr account. I have an important event next weekend and would appreciate any help you guys can give me.

Note to Jim Bryant: I read your comments to Beckerbulldog... I have no aspirations of turning pro - but would really like to become a COMPETANT Annoying Parent!!

Camera: Canon EOS 50D
Exposure: 1/2500 sec
Aperture: f/4.0
Focal Length: 98 mm
Exposure: +0.10
ISO Speed: 200
Lens: EF70-200mm f/4L USM

2009 Can't see a thing

More attempts from this set - on my Flickr page...
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:30 PM
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Default No lower DOP.

That's the lowest DOP you'll be able to get with a f4.0 lens. You'll need to get a f2.8 if you want any more less DOP. BTW, I don't care whether you any have aspirations of turning pro, which is not what I said. What I did say was, " Just don't give your work away for free."

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I've just bought a new lens (for a relatively new camera) and I am attempting shallow 'DOF' effects. The picture below is from a set of 15 on my Flickr account. I have an important event next weekend and would appreciate any help you guys can give me.

Note to Jim Bryant: I read your comments to Beckerbulldog... I have no aspirations of turning pro - but would really like to become a COMPETANT Annoying Parent!!

Camera: Canon EOS 50D
Exposure: 1/2500 sec
Aperture: f/4.0
Focal Length: 98 mm
Exposure: +0.10
ISO Speed: 200
Lens: EF70-200mm f/4L USM

2009 Can't see a thing

More attempts from this set - on my Flickr page...
Thanks for your help.
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:20 PM
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Thanks for your quick response Jim. Retirement makes the 2.8 'difficult!' Giving away shots is also unlikely - I'm only shooting one person - and HE wishes that I would put the lens where there is even less available light! But I understand (and agree with) your sentiments...
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Jaypee,

I had a great time looking through your set on this race! Your shots are really great! I love how you've captured emotions along with the action. I MUST know - what was he really thinking on "How Many Laps...?" I also especially loved "Dripping" - they are all really wonderful shots of what looked to be a great time for everyone! Nicely done!
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G'day Jayne and thanks for the kind words...

I guess the faces and emotions are a throwback to my 'story telling' days (some samples on my Blog) but now I'm determined to become a better photographer - and I love the effect of a shallow depth of field. Jim's comments above would indicate that I'm going to face some challenges with an f/4 maximum lens - but I don't have many options!

Your question regarding 'How Many Laps...?' - is a little embarrassing... That WAS the question! Most times I'm available on the track to shout laps and/or times - but this time we BOTH 'lost the plot' - I was too tied up with the new lens and got the count wrong!

Luckily - the course marshalls were on the job and flagged him into transition safely. He went on to win by a comfortable margin. It was only a State Championship - so the win was expected - but next weekend he has a big one - an International event here on the Gold Coast. So... we both need to get our act together!

I've just cruised your Flickr stream - and I love your stuff. I see that you have your own 'Dripping' shots! And I love that clenched fist...

We're two lucky parents...
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[QUOTE=JayPee;412029]G'day Jayne and thanks for the kind words...

I guess the faces and emotions are a throwback to my 'story telling' days (some samples on my Blog) but now I'm determined to become a better photographer - and I love the effect of a shallow depth of field. Jim's comments above would indicate that I'm going to face some challenges with an f/4 maximum lens - but I don't have many options!
I certainly understand the desire for equipment that makes what you want to achieve a little easier, but I must say, having the ability to tell a story with your photos - that's not something you can buy! I'm inspired to get in touch with that side of photography
Your question regarding 'How Many Laps...?' - is a little embarrassing... That WAS the question! Most times I'm available on the track to shout laps and/or times - but this time we BOTH 'lost the plot' - I was too tied up with the new lens and got the count wrong!

Luckily - the course marshalls were on the job and flagged him into transition safely. He went on to win by a comfortable margin. It was only a State Championship - so the win was expected - but next weekend he has a big one - an International event here on the Gold Coast. So... we both need to get our act together!
I can totally relate! I wasn't on my "game" this last meet, either! Luckily, my kids are now old enough to marshall themselves for events but I really didn't know what was going on at any given moment because I was so concerned about my camera settings! I hope it gets easier.

I've just cruised your Flickr stream - and I love your stuff. I see that you have your own 'Dripping' shots! And I love that clenched fist...
Thanks, John! I am so excited to learn about photography and so much appreciate your contributions to my own efforts through your comments and your lovely pictures!
We're two lucky parents... AGREED!!
I can't wait to hear AND see how everything goes for your son next weekend! Best to you both!
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In the hope that it might encourage you to become a 'story teller with a camera' - here's a link to a little piece I wrote some years ago. It was originally intended as a tribute to my son's sports teacher - but got picked up by Blue Water Magazine as the first of several articles I wrote for them. There's a photography element to the story - but the pix are only very small versions of the originals... enjoy! It's the first one on the page - but the third one features the triathlete - 11 years ago!

http://theoldbluetruck.wordpress.com...fishing-trips/
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Good for you!!!!! I've shot this even a few times while stationed in Hawaii, it makes for great story telling photos. Have fun And nice shots on your page.

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http://theoldbluetruck.wordpress.com...fishing-trips/
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Thanks Jim
I spent some time on your PhotoShelter site yesterday - and love your Japan stuff. I lived there for several years and your fishing sets in Northern Honshu are wonderful. But I missed the Hawaiian section - I'll go back in...
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Domo Arigato!

I haven't gotten the Hawaii images up yet. I'm presently scanning images shot at a Civil War re-enactment to put online. I'll have the Hawaii images up sometime next week.

BTW, I grew up in Japan, was there as a teenager from 1967 to 1972 (15 to 20 years age). That's where all my photography started. Been a 40 year ride of my life experience that I wouldn't have traded for anything.






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