#1 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2009, 07:04 AM
Alexisphotography's Avatar
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Romania
Posts: 34
Default Re-Genesis

The picture illustrates the end of the battle between the rebel, atheist side of man and his religion, attributed to him by the parents.
The main character holds a canvas on which you can see Christ’s face, painted in gold, and from between the man and the canvas they appear, a woman’s legs on a side, and her hand, holding a golden apple, on the other side.
The man wears something that seems to be a white beak and towards the edges of the picture you can see seven hands painted with gold paint.
The floor that imitates a chessboard symbolizes the existence of a battle: the character had answered to all his questions regarding his belief and embraced the deism. The beak symbolizes the release from tradition and fanaticism and the hands that seem to retreat from the scene, are symbolizing the seven sins, the preconceptions and manipulation. The canvas representing Jesus Christ and the golden apple indicate that although the main character changed his religion, he still accepts God as his creator and liberator.



Manual
Shutter Speed: 0,62 sec.
Aperture: f/4
ISO 64

Question: what feeling does it transmit to you and is there something you would change regarding the composition?
__________________
Generate endorphins, honey... Yeah...

Uuh. (!)

Last edited by Alexisphotography; 12-23-2009 at 04:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2009, 05:33 PM
windrider86's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Trinidad, Co
Posts: 16,150
Default

You have a truly great imagination but to be honest I dont really see any of what you are describing.
At any rate, the hand at the very top seems to be out of place. I'd probably bring it in closer to the guy and maybe even add a nother hand or two. crop the whole image down a tad. Too much space above him takes away from him being the focal point.
The hand with the golden apple will need to be be more prominet as it took me awhile to find it and still havent figured out where the legs are.
Love the lighting you did on this!
__________________
Olympus user, Fuji E900, a canon & last but not least a Minolta 35mm and some really old large format box cameras.Not to mention a whole bunch of other stuff. Paint Shop Pro X3, CS3,CS5, Portrait Professional, Topaz Adjust, Lucis Art and the list goes on........
www.alockintime.com



Facebook

Last edited by windrider86; 12-23-2009 at 05:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2009, 06:40 PM
natek313's Avatar
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 838
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by windrider86 View Post
You have a truly great imagination but to be honest I dont really see any of what you are describing.
At any rate, the hand at the very top seems to be out of place. I'd probably bring it in closer to the guy and maybe even add a nother hand or two. crop the whole image down a tad. Too much space above him takes away from him being the focal point.
The hand with the golden apple will need to be be more prominet as it took me awhile to find it and still havent figured out where the legs are.
Love the lighting you did on this!
This.

I don't see the connection you're making with all the symbolism.

I very much agree about the hand on top appearing out of place. I would position all the hands around the bottom half of the photo - something like three along the bottom edge of the photo and two near the bottom of the left and right edges of the photo.

The hand with the apple looks too much like his hand. At least that's what I thought at first. I can't find the woman's legs either.

But, to answer your specific question: I don't know. I'm not really sure what I feel when I see it. It's a "darker" photo, but that's not necessarily a feeling. After reading your commentary, I just thought, "Huh?"
__________________
Flickr
Model Mayhem - I'd love to work with you!
Twitter - Follow me!
facebook - Become my fan!

Last edited by natek313; 12-24-2009 at 01:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-24-2009, 11:57 AM
Alexisphotography's Avatar
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Romania
Posts: 34
Default

Thank you all for your critique

The legs, well, they were in the initial plan, sorry for forgeting them and sorry for not correcting the description. As for the symbolism, I'll try harder to express my ideas better
__________________
Generate endorphins, honey... Yeah...

Uuh. (!)
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-27-2009, 08:29 PM
dPS +1000 Club
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,054
Default

I think your symbolism involves far too much conclusion to be clear to a viewer. For example:

Quote:
The beak symbolizes the release from tradition and fanaticism ...
Why would a beak symbolize that?

Quote:
The canvas representing Jesus Christ and the golden apple indicate that although the main character changed his religion, he still accepts God as his creator and liberator.
How can that conclusion be drawn from Christ on a canvas and a golden apple?

Quote:
...the hands that seem to retreat from the scene, are symbolizing the seven sins, the preconceptions and manipulation.
The hands appear to me to be intruding into the scene, not retreating. Preconceptions?

Frankly, I wouldn't have known the yellow on the canvas was a representation of Christ without your description and as was said above, I had to search for the apple after reading about it.

No disrespect intended, but on first glance, I thought of Criss Angel doing a magic trick.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-27-2009, 08:38 PM
WVCoalMiner's Avatar
Local Lunatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
on first glance, I thought of Criss Angel doing a magic trick.
I thought that also LOL
__________________
2-Canon 5D's & 1- Canon XTi 50mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.8, 18-55mm f/3.5 Kit Lenses, Canon EF 75-300mm F4-5.6 III
To see more of my photos check out my flickr page: flickr
WV KY OH DPS Photography Group JOIN NOW!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-29-2009, 08:58 PM
Japaslavian's Avatar
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 660
Default

You have to remember that photographs in of themselves are often times symbols for something, but trying to cram in and force out as many double-meanings as you possibly can will almost always either lose the viewer, or just not interest them.

Symbolism is a difficult thing to work with sometimes, because there may or may not be an already developed symbolic meaning for something. For instance, the color red alludes to dozens of things because it is a commonly used element in both literary and pictorial imagery. The Scarlet Pimpernel, The Scarlet Letter, The Red Badge of Courage, The 6th Sense, "love is like a red red rose..." the list could go on forever. We are accustomed to red, so it makes sense when you use it metaphorically, but when you say something like, "The beak symbolizes the release from tradition and fanaticism" I'm sitting here thinking... "wait, what?" The only thing I could come up with is thinking the beak represents a bird, which can fly and is therefore free, in a sense, from things we as humans cannot necessarily escape, but that is really a stretch, and is far from obvious to a normal, casual viewer, especially since people will not necessarily get to hear or read your explanation. And that is what makes this image unsuccessful. The symbolism is not understood, nor does it outshine some of the technical flaws that have been mentioned already.
__________________
7 d | g l a s s | n e u t r a l d e n s i t y | l i g h t | p e r c e p t i o n

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2010, 02:44 AM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Default

I definitely agree with the other posters, especially regarding the symbolism. From an art history perspective, I automatically think first of the Veil of Veronica when I see the face of Christ on a cloth. A golden apple makes me think of foremost of the Judgment of Paris, though I know golden apples are associated with other myths, as well. I think for your photo with symbols to be effective it shouldn't have to be explained so thoroughly.

That said, you did an amazing amount of work setting this up and you do have a creative mind.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-03-2010, 03:39 PM
Alexisphotography's Avatar
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Romania
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
I definitely agree with the other posters, especially regarding the symbolism. From an art history perspective, I automatically think first of the Veil of Veronica when I see the face of Christ on a cloth. A golden apple makes me think of foremost of the Judgment of Paris, though I know golden apples are associated with other myths, as well. I think for your photo with symbols to be effective it shouldn't have to be explained so thoroughly.

That said, you did an amazing amount of work setting this up and you do have a creative mind.
Thanks I'm not lucky enough to follow an arts school and i don't have the money to hire a studio, i'm self-taught and (still) a teenager... And still learning.

p.s: yes, I was somehow inspired by the veil of Veronica when I sketched the picture in my mind..
__________________
Generate endorphins, honey... Yeah...

Uuh. (!)
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-07-2010, 05:46 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexisphotography View Post

p.s: yes, I was somehow inspired by the veil of Veronica when I sketched the picture in my mind..
Have you considered doing a series of photos using only one, recurring symbol or theme? I think you could more effectively convey your point of view that way...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

What’s Your Preference?

Daily Digest

Each day we send out a quick email to thousands of DPS readers to notify them of updates. This email is just short excerpt of the first few lines of our latest post with a link if you want to read it all. You can unsubscribe from this this service at any time.

This service is provided by a third party (Feedburner) and you can subscribe to it by leaving your email address in the following field and confirming your subscription when you get an email asking you to do so.

Enter your email address for
Daily Updates:

Weekly Summary

For those wanting a weekly summary of what happens on this site this free email newsletter is probably your best option. It includes a summary of the tips posted to the site each week. This newsletter is subscribed to by over 25000 readers (many who also subscribe to the other options above) - come join the community!

To subscribe to this weekly newsletter simply add your email address to the following field and then follow the confirmation prompts. You will be able to unsubscribe at any time.

Enter your email address for
Free Weekly Newsletter:

 
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0