GoldenSky

[johnjuan57]

I tweaked the colors in this shot, and changed the color of the sky with some tint. It was a dull gray. My question is, does the size of the sky take away from the composition of the Barn? It has put the barn a little off on the thirds rule. Thanks for all the comments.


Camera GENERAL IMAGING CO. X5
Exposure 0.014 sec (1/70)
Aperture f/6.5
Focal Length 18.4 mm
ISO Speed 100

[wulf]

Don't get too hung up on the rule of thirds or at least with slavishly applying it to putting the barn on one of those intersection points. If anything, I might have used a variant of the rule by putting the top of the tree line 1/3 of the up from the bottom, meaning 2/3 of the frame would be filled with the sky. That would have emphasised how even what (I imagine) is a decent sized barn is dwarfed by the landscape it sits in.

There are some other challenges that I see with this scene and the processing. Firstly, I think you have been a bit heavy handed with the orange tint, so it immediately looks artificial. You could dial it down a notch, stop the gradient dropping off so quickly (I think it lightens too quickly above the trees) and put more of that colour into the land below (the land reflects the light of the sky, which is why you get those warm tones during the "golden hour").

Also, the barn would make a better subject if it was the point of focus for the lighting as well as by virtue of being manmade in the natural environment. You might get towards that with some more processing although coming back to shoot the scene at a different time of day might give a stronger starting point.

Wulf

[johnjuan57]

Originally Posted by wulf

Don't get too hung up on the rule of thirds or at least with slavishly applying it to putting the barn on one of those intersection points. If anything, I might have used a variant of the rule by putting the top of the tree line 1/3 of the up from the bottom, meaning 2/3 of the frame would be filled with the sky. That would have emphasised how even what (I imagine) is a decent sized barn is dwarfed by the landscape it sits in.

There are some other challenges that I see with this scene and the processing. Firstly, I think you have been a bit heavy handed with the orange tint, so it immediately looks artificial. You could dial it down a notch, stop the gradient dropping off so quickly (I think it lightens too quickly above the trees) and put more of that colour into the land below (the land reflects the light of the sky, which is why you get those warm tones during the "golden hour").

Also, the barn would make a better subject if it was the point of focus for the lighting as well as by virtue of being manmade in the natural environment. You might get towards that with some more processing although coming back to shoot the scene at a different time of day might give a stronger starting point.

Wulf

Wow, Thanks for all the input and time you spent on my shot,Wulf. So what your saying is that, had I gone with maybe a blue sky, the brighter colors below would have matched up a little better. Or tone down the orange and pull it down into some of the brighter colors. Ok thanks very much. I'm still learning PP. Everything I do seems a little overdone. But I'm catching on.

[Krusty79]

Yes, the bright orange sky tends to divert my attention away from the relatively dark barn. Your eye naturally goes to the lightest part of an image.

[johnjuan57]

Originally Posted by Krusty79

Yes, the bright orange sky tends to divert my attention away from the relatively dark barn. Your eye naturally goes to the lightest part of an image.

That gives me something to think about, I appreciate you taking the time Krusty. Thanks a lot

[silverbirch]

I'm interested in this thread, and, hope you don't mind john I tried cropping the image as suggested to see what what was being suggested. I can see what a difference it make by changing the perspective. I totally respect your copyright to this and have altered it for learning only.

[wulf]

Originally Posted by johnjuan57

Wow, Thanks for all the input and time you spent on my shot,Wulf. So what your saying is that, had I gone with maybe a blue sky, the brighter colors below would have matched up a little better. Or tone down the orange and pull it down into some of the brighter colors. Ok thanks very much. I'm still learning PP. Everything I do seems a little overdone. But I'm catching on.

It is about finding a balance. There is some warmth in the colours of the land so I'm not sure a blue sky would have done it; just one that is less orange or with more orange over the land portion.

Wulf

ps. silverbirch, that puts the treeline about where I was thinking but it leaves the barn almost sitting on the bottom of the frame and relatively large. What I was thinking about was more of standing further back when taking the shot, which would leave the barn much smaller in the image.

[silverbirch]

Originally Posted by wulf

ps. silverbirch, that puts the treeline about where I was thinking but it leaves the barn almost sitting on the bottom of the frame and relatively large. What I was thinking about was more of standing further back when taking the shot, which would leave the barn much smaller in the image.

Oh - yes I see what you mean. Gosh - so much to learn about composition. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[johnjuan57]

Originally Posted by silverbirch

I'm interested in this thread, and, hope you don't mind john I tried cropping the image as suggested to see what what was being suggested. I can see what a difference it make by changing the perspective. I totally respect your copyright to this and have altered it for learning only.

I don't mind one bit that you changed that photo. The way I look at it is whatever it takes to get the point across, do it. I just want to thank you all for helping with some of this stuff. It can get frustrating. Iv'e got other copies and angles of this shot I'm gonna toy with. If I can get what I want, I'll post the outcome.

[silverbirch]

Yes - it's great the way people help out with suggestions. I think I need to start a book with some of these things written down, as I don't know that I'll remember it all :-)