Lightroom Question

[GadgetRick]

Recently started using Lightroom with Photoshop to edit photos. Love it so far, however, it does have some things which I can't make sense out of.

My main question is, how can I export a photo and change the colorspace for that export (only)? When I export using the Picasa Web plugin, it allows me to change the colorspace within the plugin. However, with the Facebook plugin there is no selection for that (I upload a few pics to Facebook so the family/friends can see what I'm up to). When it goes into Facebook, the colors are muted and the pic doesn't look proper.

I'm guessing there's a way to change this within Lightroom itself but I can't seem to locate it. Anyone have any ideas?

Oh, I shoot in RAW. When I go into Photoshop I use TIFF although I've also heard some people say to keep it in the native Photoshop file type. Any thoughts on this as well?

Thanks so much.

[Sime]

Are you not shooting in sRGB?

Would you consider linking me to one of your FB shots?

facebook.com/gtvone

Sime

[irieness]

Well, I'm not familiar with the Facebook plugin, but somewhere in the export function you should find the color space setting. Set it at sRGB and you should have web ready images . Again, this is for the original export set-up, not the plugin you mention.

[GadgetRick]

Originally Posted by Sime™

Are you not shooting in sRGB?

Would you consider linking me to one of your FB shots?

facebook.com/gtvone

Sime

Hmm, not sure. I'm shooting in RAW in whatever space my Nikon D50 shoots in. I'm not sure what it shoots in but I kind doubt it shoots in sRGB. My understanding (from a while back, that is) is sRGB is more for displaying on the Web and not printing. Again, my info is from quite a few years back though so things may have changed.

Will see about linking ya to some shots. Just started this so I don't have many available yet.

[GadgetRick]

Originally Posted by irieness

Well, I'm not familiar with the Facebook plugin, but somewhere in the export function you should find the color space setting. Set it at sRGB and you should have web ready images . Again, this is for the original export set-up, not the plugin you mention.

I thought I saw something like that when I first installed Lightroom but I can't seem to find it again.

Here is an example of a comparison. This is posted on Picasa Web with no compression in sRGB (sorry, can't hotlink with Picasa Web):

Picasa Web Albums - GadgetRick

Here is the same pic posted to Facebook (I think you can view it this way but not sure):

Login | Facebook

EDIT: Not sure if I can post the FB example unless you're a friend of mine on FB.
Notice the difference in color.

[Sime]

I Facebooked this to you... but just incase you didn't get it :-)

Color Mode has three settings:

Mode Ia is default. It's Nikon's secret code for standard sRGB. sRGB is the world standard for digital images and the Internet.

Mode II is secret code for Adobe RGB, which only hackers use. Adobe RGB gives dull colors when used by anyone other than an expert in color management who prints his own work. Even if you're an expert, if you send your work out for printing, 90% of the time the people doing the printing aren't experts and screw it up for you. Ignore desktop armchair hobbyists who bleat on about the broader color gamut of Adobe RGB. I've created and printed 100% chroma grads in Adobe RGB and sRGB and saw no difference when printed either on Inkjets or on the $250,000 Lightjet 5000 on Fuji Supergloss. Oh well! Using Adobe RGB is asking for trouble unless you really know what you're doing and have complete control over your process. If you have to ask, don't use Adobe RGB.

Mode IIIa is secret code for a standard sRGB mode which gives bolder color. I use this all the time.



Sime

[Sime]

Picasa



Faceache

[Sime]

Defo a color difference above, look at that chocolate and the cherries... I'd say it's either a: Facebook's compression during uploading stripping info out of the file or, b: you've uploaded two different images?

Sime

[GadgetRick]

Originally Posted by Sime™

Defo a color difference above, look at that chocolate and the cherries... I'd say it's either a: Facebook's compression during uploading stripping info out of the file or, b: you've uploaded two different images?

Sime

Definately the same images. FB is doing something to the pics. I have LOTS of examples of this and it happens EVERY time I compare the same image there and elsewhere.

[GadgetRick]

Originally Posted by Sime™

I Facebooked this to you... but just incase you didn't get it :-)

Color Mode has three settings:

Mode Ia is default. It's Nikon's secret code for standard sRGB. sRGB is the world standard for digital images and the Internet.

Mode II is secret code for Adobe RGB, which only hackers use. Adobe RGB gives dull colors when used by anyone other than an expert in color management who prints his own work. Even if you're an expert, if you send your work out for printing, 90% of the time the people doing the printing aren't experts and screw it up for you. Ignore desktop armchair hobbyists who bleat on about the broader color gamut of Adobe RGB. I've created and printed 100% chroma grads in Adobe RGB and sRGB and saw no difference when printed either on Inkjets or on the $250,000 Lightjet 5000 on Fuji Supergloss. Oh well! Using Adobe RGB is asking for trouble unless you really know what you're doing and have complete control over your process. If you have to ask, don't use Adobe RGB.

Mode IIIa is secret code for a standard sRGB mode which gives bolder color. I use this all the time.



Sime

Great info to discuss here.

I've not changed anything on the camera so I'm guessing it's default so that should be ok.