Lightroom & Photoshop

[Jim Bryant]

Originally Posted by ElCapitanoAwesomo

i just dont get photoshop. plus the fact that it takes 4 minutes to load a simple brush infuriates me. so i stick with LR, which still takes sometime. i need a new machine...

Yes, it's not photoshop, but most likely very little unused space. Have you copied your music and images onto an external hardrive to free up some more space on your internal HD? Maybe it's a very slow processor and not much speed. BTW when did you get your computer?

[Tito87]

Thanks to everyone for all the input. There are so many different opinions regarding PS vs LR--I think I've got some rethinking to do. I appreciate all the info.

[ElCapitanoAwesomo]

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

Yes, it's not photoshop, but most likely very little unused space. Have you copied your music and images onto an external hardrive to free up some more space on your internal HD? Maybe it's a very slow processor and not much speed. BTW when did you get your computer?

my dad thought that too, and has pretty much cleared my computer of useless crap. all my photos are backed up onto an external, except the ones i keep for my portfolio. its the first gen aluminum case macs. so, mid 2007.

[Jim Poor]

Originally Posted by ElCapitanoAwesomo

my dad thought that too, and has pretty much cleared my computer of useless crap. all my photos are backed up onto an external, except the ones i keep for my portfolio. its the first gen aluminum case macs. so, mid 2007.

You've got something else going on then. PS should run fine on those machines.

[nickbedford]

I'm kinda surprised how many people don't seem to find Lightroom a thousand times more efficient than Photoshop / Bridge / Camera Raw.

I can edit a 400 photo shoot in about an hour with Lightroom. The fact that you don't have to open it through ACR, the fact that all your edits are instantly saved without XMP's, the fact that those edits and all the history and everything are saved without you even thinking about hitting a Save button, and that your library and editing is all in a single seamless program. The interface is fantastic when you get used to it (which really isn't all that hard).

Sure, for more advanced editing like replacing backgrounds, you can't do with Lightroom but even things like brush touch ups, iris enhancement, skin smoothing and gradient filters can all be done very, very quickly in a completely reversible and repeatedly modifiable way.

And when you're done editing that photo, you hit the Right Arrow key and you're into editing the next photo.

The difference with editing in Lightroom is that all the settings needed for common and evenly moderately advanced photograph editing are all right there in one pane, like ACR, but in the same interface.

Not to mention the fact that you don't have to save any JPEGs or TIFFs or anything until you want to export the result or edit in Photoshop. Whenever I've used ACR on Lightroomless computers, I've attested to the fact that I have to save something out from the CR2 instead of being able to simply work completely from the raw file then the final image is exported when I feel like it.

Each to their own I guess.

[MrJones]

Originally Posted by nickbedford

I'm kinda surprised how many people don't seem to find Lightroom a thousand times more efficient than Photoshop / Bridge / Camera Raw.

I can edit a 400 photo shoot in about an hour with Lightroom. The fact that you don't have to open it through ACR, the fact that all your edits are instantly saved without XMP's, the fact that those edits and all the history and everything are saved without you even thinking about hitting a Save button, and that your library and editing is all in a single seamless program. The interface is fantastic when you get used to it (which really isn't all that hard).

Sure, for more advanced editing like replacing backgrounds, you can't do with Lightroom but even things like brush touch ups, iris enhancement, skin smoothing and gradient filters can all be done very, very quickly in a completely reversible and repeatedly modifiable way.

And when you're done editing that photo, you hit the Right Arrow key and you're into editing the next photo.

The difference with editing in Lightroom is that all the settings needed for common and evenly moderately advanced photograph editing are all right there in one pane, like ACR, but in the same interface.

Not to mention the fact that you don't have to save any JPEGs or TIFFs or anything until you want to export the result or edit in Photoshop. Whenever I've used ACR on Lightroomless computers, I've attested to the fact that I have to save something out from the CR2 instead of being able to simply work completely from the raw file then the final image is exported when I feel like it.

Each to their own I guess.

you are right about everything but the last sentence. you can export the image to JPG right from ACR.

[smcilree]

I have ended up in the Lightroom 3 (most of the time) camp myself. As software developers like onOne and Topaz bring out more plugins that work directly inside Lightroom that most becomes more. And for those rare times I have to have the ability of Photoshop, I find that Elements gives me all I need at a saving of several hundred bucks.

[ArmySoldier777]

I mostly only use LR for the ease of adding signatures to all my pictures at once knowing they'll always be in the right spot. You can create actions to do this in Photoshop, but it's still more time consuming than LR. Also, if you crop your images the placement might not be right when it automatically adds the signature via Action. I also use LR if I happened to shoot a couple hundred photos and somebody wants to see them within a day or two. But after that, I load them all into PS for my normal editing. But I've also been using Photoshop since the very first version, and every version in between up until CS5. So PS just comes second nature to me by now.


David

[SQWIB]

Interesting read

Are Lightroom, Photoshop and CS5 all adobe products.

Can you edit RAW in Photoshop elements 5.0

Sorry no intentions of Hijacking this thread.

[Tito87]

Originally Posted by SQWIB

Interesting read

Are Lightroom, Photoshop and CS5 all adobe products.

Can you edit RAW in Photoshop elements 5.0

Sorry no intentions of Hijacking this thread.

CS5 is one version of Photoshop. Yes, they are Adobe products. I don't know about Photoshop Elements 5.0; you're going to have to wait for one of our resident experts to pick up the thread. Don't be sorry; we all share here.