Go Back   Digital Photography School - Photography Forums > Critique > People - Critique


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-05-2010, 07:34 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2
Default What are your tips to a great B&W portrait?

I am new to the photography world, but since having this cutie last year I am motivated to learn and improve. I am interested in hearing your thoughts on how to achieve a great B&W portrait....both getting the best results out of the camera and through editting techniques.

I am also in need of more consistency....I seem to keep and edit only about 5 pictures for every 100 that I take. Any thoughts? Is this normal?

Canon Digital Rebel XS
Shutter Speed: 1/125
F1.8
ISO 200
Focal Length: 50mm
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2892_resized.JPG (189.5 KB, 161 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-06-2010, 04:41 PM
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 711
Default

You can convert a color image to a b & w, but you cannot (easily) convert a b & w to a color image, so I suggest shooting color all the time.

While black backgrounds are easy to get, they look out of place IMHO in child photography. Whites, pinks and powder blues are children's colors and are airy and lend a sense of lightness and purity to an image. Blacks are heavy and oppressive. The term "darkness" is frequently used in the scriptures to describe the devil and his demons and where they live. Yes, a white background is harder to obtain, but mothers will reward you with $$$ if you use it. Wal-Mart and K-Mart type studios use dark backgrounds because they are easy, and these places are cheap. You want your images to look better
(i.e. more expensive) than them, otherwise they will go there. Your backgrounds, poses, props and lighting must be better than theirs. Money doesn't talk, it screams.

Benji
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-06-2010, 08:47 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benji View Post
You can convert a color image to a b & w, but you cannot (easily) convert a b & w to a color image, so I suggest shooting color all the time.

While black backgrounds are easy to get, they look out of place IMHO in child photography. Whites, pinks and powder blues are children's colors and are airy and lend a sense of lightness and purity to an image. Blacks are heavy and oppressive. The term "darkness" is frequently used in the scriptures to describe the devil and his demons and where they live. Yes, a white background is harder to obtain, but mothers will reward you with $$$ if you use it. Wal-Mart and K-Mart type studios use dark backgrounds because they are easy, and these places are cheap. You want your images to look better
(i.e. more expensive) than them, otherwise they will go there. Your backgrounds, poses, props and lighting must be better than theirs. Money doesn't talk, it screams.

Benji
Thank you for the feedback....all great points that I will definitely incorporate in the future.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2010, 01:18 AM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 39
Default

Stop the 50mm 1.8 down to 2.8.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2010, 04:40 AM
SusanH1970's Avatar
Am I in trouble again?
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Connecticut, USA
Posts: 9,171
Default

Actually, a huge current trend among baby/newborn photographers IS black and whites on a black backdrop. Consider the work of Anne Geddes, Jodie Otte, Linnea Lenkus, and Sandy Puc', (who were all doing it before Walmart, etc. picked up on the trend) for example. While the pastels are sweet, the black is very dramatic and showcases the beauty of a baby quite nicely.

To the OP: I think your image is lovely. Focus looks good and there's just the right amount of contrast. Just watch your foot and hand chops.
__________________
Susan
Mostly Canon stuff
My Flickr
Facebook - new photos always posted and always happy for new "likes"!
Website going through an overhaul!

Last edited by SusanH1970; 03-08-2010 at 09:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2010, 03:30 AM
private's Avatar
Old timer :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: VA
Posts: 7,206
Default

What I do not like about the pink and blue backgrounds is that they leave color casts which means more work for me in post processing. And like Susan said using black is the current thread, and I take high offense that you compare it to a satanic portait - cuz its not.
__________________
Pat
5D, 5DMKII | lenses 24-70 2.8L, 50 1.2, 35 2.0 70-200 2.8 II, 15mm - MY WEBSITE Fan me on Facebook!
You don't have to be the best, you just have to be better than last week" - Jerry Ghionis
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2010, 02:18 PM
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 711
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by private View Post
What I do not like about the pink and blue backgrounds is that they leave color casts which means more work for me in post processing. And like Susan said using black is the current thread, and I take high offense that you compare it to a satanic portait - cuz its not.
Let me refresh you memory on what I said in my above posting, "Blacks are heavy and oppressive. The term "darkness" is frequently used in the scriptures to describe the devil and his demons and where they live." This is not "comparing" a baby portrait to a satanic portrait it is simply stating a fact.

Benji
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2010, 03:04 PM
SusanH1970's Avatar
Am I in trouble again?
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Connecticut, USA
Posts: 9,171
Default

Hmmmm....heavy and oppressive?

Anne Geddes: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/doct...des%20baby.jpg

Jody Otte: un3 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Linnea Lenkus: http://www.photographypros.com/portr...g_beach_01.jpg

All above are highly paid. Hmmm, did someone say "money doesn't talk, it screams"?

Benji, with all due respect as I know you've been a professional photographer for a very long time, before you tell someone new to the business that shooting a baby on black is wrong (or cheap or dark and oppressive), perhaps you should take the time to learn current trends. Clients today see images such as the above and ask for it. Perhaps it's not your cup of tea and you prefer not to do these types of images, but out and out telling someone else they shouldn't isn't fair.

Oh, and most clients don't read the Bible for inspiration before booking a photographer, as far as I know.
__________________
Susan
Mostly Canon stuff
My Flickr
Facebook - new photos always posted and always happy for new "likes"!
Website going through an overhaul!

Last edited by SusanH1970; 03-09-2010 at 03:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2010, 05:29 PM
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 711
Default

I checked all of them out and noticed on at least two of them the child's dark hair blending in with the dark backgrounds. This was called "floating heads" back in the day.....

Ben
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2010, 05:45 PM
SusanH1970's Avatar
Am I in trouble again?
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Connecticut, USA
Posts: 9,171
Default

Funny, I see separation of the hair from the bg....
__________________
Susan
Mostly Canon stuff
My Flickr
Facebook - new photos always posted and always happy for new "likes"!
Website going through an overhaul!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
b&w, baby, children

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

What’s Your Preference?

Daily Digest

Each day we send out a quick email to thousands of DPS readers to notify them of updates. This email is just short excerpt of the first few lines of our latest post with a link if you want to read it all. You can unsubscribe from this this service at any time.

This service is provided by a third party (Feedburner) and you can subscribe to it by leaving your email address in the following field and confirming your subscription when you get an email asking you to do so.

Enter your email address for
Daily Updates:

Weekly Summary

For those wanting a weekly summary of what happens on this site this free email newsletter is probably your best option. It includes a summary of the tips posted to the site each week. This newsletter is subscribed to by over 25000 readers (many who also subscribe to the other options above) - come join the community!

To subscribe to this weekly newsletter simply add your email address to the following field and then follow the confirmation prompts. You will be able to unsubscribe at any time.

Enter your email address for
Free Weekly Newsletter:

 
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0