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Old 12-23-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default I'm Having K10D Envy!

Oh, I'm so having K10D envy. I'm using an XTi right now - which is a great camera - but that weather sealing sounds OH SO appealing! I like to shoot out in the inclement weather, but I hate using rain sleeves. Problem is, I'm too scared to get the camera out to take the shot without the sleeve. PLUS, there are other features I like on the K10D too!

I'm thinking I need to shoot w/ two systems: Canon AND Pentax. Anyone feel like contributing to my K10D fund? :-)

That'll do me for awhile: XTi and K10D. Then I'll add Leica into the mix...
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:53 PM
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What's wrong with the 40D?
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What's wrong with the 40D?
1. I was under the impression that it's not weather sealed.

2. It's twice the price.
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Old 12-23-2007, 05:17 PM
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I own a Canon, but I envy things about the Nikon, Pentax, etc. systems. I don't know if there is one perfect one. Rather than buy different systems, I think I would use the money to upgrade what I have or buy more glass.

I'm not sure I would trust weather sealing that much anyway. Maybe in a light drizzle, but I'd still want to protect my camera "just in case". You could always get one of these for piece of mind, or even cheaper, use a plastic bag.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:35 PM
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There's videos of people running their K10Ds under faucets with no harm. I'm not sure I'd do that, but I wouldn't worry about rain -- with one caveat: to date, the only weather-sealed lenses are the $750/$900 DA* zoom lenses.

Hopefully they'll eventually come out with a weather-sealed normal prime, but until then, there's a pretty serious weak spot.
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Eh, I don't think I'd really start to invest in two systems. It's just the envious part of me talking. It's the light rain and snow that I'd like to shoot in. I use something similiar to a storm jacket right now, but it's anoying to use.

I do plan on buying a Leica M8 one day (or whatever version is out at the time I have the $7,000 necessary to buy the body and lens), but that's kinda apples and oranges.
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40D has weather sealing, anecdotal evidence suggests it isn't as good as the D200/300, but I've had my D50 out in some pretty nasty weather without any ill effects.

edit: if you're going to spend $7k just get a 1D and be done with it.
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1. Sell the cannon and buy the K10D
2. Weather-tight means a lot more than no moisture - it means no dust infiltration. Anti-shake means more than a couple of stops gain, it also means dust shake at power on. You will save a LOT in sensor cleaning!
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1. Sell the cannon and buy the K10D
2. Weather-tight means a lot more than no moisture - it means no dust infiltration. Anti-shake means more than a couple of stops gain, it also means dust shake at power on. You will save a LOT in sensor cleaning!
Anti-shake and cleaning have nothing to do with each other. Besides, the 400D and 40D both have it.

Body stabilization only gives you a couple of stops, lens stabilization is more effective. If you change lenses at all dust will get into the body.
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Anti-shake and cleaning have nothing to do with each other.
Well, the K10D uses it's anti-shake system to clean the lens, but just because a camera has in-body anti-shake doesn't mean it can use that system for cleaning the sensor.

Everything else was right though. All the new EOS cameras (including the 40D and XTi) have the ability to ultrasonically clean their sensors, and just because the body is weather sealed and won't let particulate in, unless you change your lenses in a clean room, I guarantee you'll get dust in there sooner or later.

So now you're back to the weather-sealing being the only advantage. I don't think weather sealing is a huge deal, but I'm with Saralonde... I wouldn't trust any sealing, unless it was waterproof to like 10k feet or something crazy like that.
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