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Old 10-07-2009, 12:58 PM
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This morning my D200 started changing the shutter speed after taking any photo, in manual mode. I set the shutter, take a shot and the next shot may be 1000x faster or even on the bulb setting slower. Just FYI this happens with any lens attached to the camera, I tried six different lenses and had the same results. I am sure this is a failure that needs to be addressed by Nikon, so I will send it back if it is repairable.

I had planned to hold out purchasing a new camera until after the introduction of the next series, possibly the D400. Having this failure means I need to purchase now, I think I want to stay with a DX body, but should this be the D300 or the D300s? They appear to me to be the same except for video, which I will never use. They also seem to be the same price at this time. Am I missing something comparing these two cameras? I have considered the D700, but 95% of the photos I take are wildlife so having the crop body gives me an advantage.

What should I purchase and is it worth sending the D200 in for service?

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Old 10-07-2009, 01:25 PM
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You can always get a quote from Nikon, see how much it'd be to repair. Remember, if you get the D200 repaired you can always use it as a second/backup body.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:02 PM
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You can always get a quote from Nikon, see how much it'd be to repair. Remember, if you get the D200 repaired you can always use it as a second/backup body.
Good to know, I didn't realize they would quote me the repair prior to working on it. I am still stuck without a Nikon camera and don't know which to purchase. Normally I would send this in for repair and continue to wait for the next version from Nikon. But, dang it, I have been trying to shoot Ospreys for over a year and I am finally seeing eleven just about every day and now the camera breaks. I could order long glass for the Sigma SD14, but I would rather have a new Nikon body. The SD14 is more of a pain to use and only good for certain subjects, the only reason I have it is it was a gift.

300, 300s, or 700?
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Good morning,

I would personnaly go for the D300 category over the D700. As you said, your doing mostly wildlife therefore a crop sensor is a plus for you. D700 will get you less noise with high ISO but can your glasses fit on a FF body without Vignetting ? I know you can set the D700 to simulate the crop sensor but defeats the purpose IMO. I think it's an expensive alternative solution.

As for the D300s...

- Video
- Support both CF and SDHC memory card simultaneously (You can actually do Raw + JPEG with a format on each card)
- 7fps instead of 6 / still 8 with the MB-D10 pack
- Built-in flash support 16mm lens instead of 18mm.

Only you can tell if it's worth the extra money.

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Good morning,

I would personnaly go for the D300 category over the D700. As you said, your doing mostly wildlife therefore a crop sensor is a plus for you. D700 will get you less noise with high ISO but can your glasses fit on a FF body without Vignetting ? I know you can set the D700 to simulate the crop sensor but defeats the purpose IMO. I think it's an expensive alternative solution.

As for the D300s...

- Video
- Support both CF and SDHC memory card simultaneously (You can actually do Raw + JPEG with a format on each card)
- 7fps instead of 6 / still 8 with the MB-D10 pack
- Built-in flash support 16mm lens instead of 18mm.

Only you can tell if it's worth the extra money.

Hope this help
Thanks for the help, the only reason I am considering the D700 is that I have some friends that keep telling me I need to go full frame. These guys are all professional wildlife photographers, I keep telling them I can't get close enough here to get the shots I want. Of course they keep telling me to stop being afraid of the leeches and get in the water more often. I think I will stay with FX, although I have got the D200 back in operation again.
I just spent an hour with Nikon Technical support and at the end they wanted me to send the camera in for service. I kept asking them to allow me to reset the camera to see what would happen as I thought it was doing bracketing. They had me change a lot of settings, that supposedly put everything in manual and it didn't help. Then I did a reset based upon their instructions that honestly did nothing, nothing as in did not perform a reset. After hanging up from them I did a reset on the camera using a different set of instructions and now it is not longer doing some kind of crazy bracketing. I think that I must have hit the wrong buttons in the dark this morning and really screwed it up. Either way it's back, but now I am leaning to buy a second body anyway.
You mentioned the price of the 300 vs the 300s, everywhere I look they are the same price so I guess it's a toss up on which to buy.
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Wink D300 pricing!

I purchased two D300 cameras from BuyDig about a year and a half ago for around $1,500each. Call them or another outfit and haggle with them on the phone. You might be able to knock something off the earlier camera.

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I had the same weird thing happen with my D300. I had been bracketing and something went crazzy. A full reset fixed it and it has never done it again. The D300 has a CMOS sensor while your D200 has a CCD. The CMOS gives you much better higg ISO capabilities. I agree with your logic in staying with DX, and also agree that the 300s adds very little. If you really want the second body why not try to find a lightly used D300, I have seen some for just over $1,000 on the various photo forums.
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id have to agree with the said above! go full frame. im still saving up the cash to buy my first full frame. i also use the d200, i hope it doenst start showing these symptoms.....
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I had the same weird thing happen with my D300. I had been bracketing and something went crazzy. A full reset fixed it and it has never done it again. The D300 has a CMOS sensor while your D200 has a CCD. The CMOS gives you much better higg ISO capabilities. I agree with your logic in staying with DX, and also agree that the 300s adds very little. If you really want the second body why not try to find a lightly used D300, I have seen some for just over $1,000 on the various photo forums.
Sorry you had the same experience, but then again I'm glad to hear the reset solved the problem. It was very strange as I was not bracketing, when I bracket I manually make the changes. I am hoping I did something to the camera in the darkness, but I don't think that is really the case. I can't believe that Nikon technical support couldn't get the reset procedure correct. Anyway it worked fine this afternoon.
I think you have the right idea and I'm going to look around for a used D300. I know they are better than the D200 but I was wanting to wait for the next version before upgrading.

Thanks everyone for the help and input.
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