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Old 10-11-2010, 06:38 PM
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Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my question. I am new to this site and already I'm addicted!

My question is in regards to equipment best suited to outdoor photography. Photography has been my hobby for about 6 years now. I am no where near "pro" level and I am just now able to invest in equipment beyond my camera. I have been taking our extended family's photographs for several years now. This includes events like anniversary receptions, vow renewals, and just basic portrait sessions (all have been outdoor). I would like to purchase some lighting equipment for outdoor photography.I own a Canon 450D with kit lenses. I am looking at purchasing a Canon 430EX Speedlight, softbox, and a trigger system. Is there anything else I would need? Just wanting to take my pictures to another level.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:44 PM
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The biggest thing that didn't occur to me that I've often wished I had, (but don't shoot outside enough to buy now) is some sandbags for your lightstand. However, for the stage you're at, go ahead and get yourself a nifty fifty. Those extra stops you're missing off your kit lens will open up more than you'd imagine.

Then come back and I'll apologize for jumpstarting your LBA.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:18 PM
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If you're getting a speedlight, softbox, and triggers, make sure you also get a lightstand and umbrella swivel. Or at least the umbrella swivel so you can attach the speedlight/softbox/trigger to something (monopod, tripod, clamp, etc.) to hold your light in place for you.
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:21 PM
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Thanks for the info. I have some serious shopping to do!
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:22 PM
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go ahead and get yourself a nifty fifty
Excuse the dumb question but what?
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:30 PM
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A "nifty fifty" is a fast 50mm prime lens. Typically, the EF 50mm f/1.8 II (which I personally think of as the "Thrifty Fifty." To me the EF 50mm f/1.4 USM is the nifty fifty, but people differ on this usage).

The main virtues of the 50mm f/1.8 II are a) it's cheapness--it's about $100. And b) its wide maximum aperture: f/1.8.

Your 18-55 IS kit lens's maximum aperture is f/3.5-5.6. That is, when it's set at its widest to 18mm, it can only open up as wide as f/3.5, and when it's set to its longest (zoomed all the way in) to 55mm, it can only open up to f/5.6. These are relatively "slow"/narrow aperture settings.

The 50/1.8 can open all the way up to f/1.8. Compared to the kit lens @55mm, that's 3.3 stops wider. Which may not seem like a lot, until you understand that a stop is a doubling of the light. So 3.3 stops ten times the amount of light. With the 50mm f/1.8 wide open, vs. the kit lens @55mm wide open, you could use an iso setting that's one-tenth the one you'd use on the kit lens, or a shutter speed that's 10 times faster, and you'd get the same exposure.

In short, a larger max. aperture gives you a lot more wiggle room when it comes to light. It will also get you a much shallower DoF, so you have to pay attention to your autofocus system. But creamy dreamy background blur is much easier to get with a lens that's got a max. aperture of f/2.8 or larger.

Also, it's a prime, or a fixed focal length lens. It doesn't zoom. You have to run around a lot more with it than with a zoom lens. This actually isn't a handicap when you're starting out, because it will force you to walk around, and to start contemplating composition by camera position. If you're going to get nearer, then maybe you'll take a step to the side, or climb up on a bunch, or kneel down. Zooms tend to short-circuit your compositional sense down to simply twisting the zoom ring, without necessarily contemplating your angle of attack first.

Primes are also much simpler lenses than zooms. They're older in design. And they're much easier to optimize because the designer only has to worry about a single focal length. Primes tend to be smaller, lighter, cheaper, and sharper than their zoom counterparts, as well as having larger max. apertures. The 50/1.8 II, despite being a cheap lens in a plastic mount, is still going to be sharper than your 18-55.

For most of us, a fast prime lens is an even more basic piece of equipment than a flash (let alone off-camera flash), especially for portraiture.

Take a look at this thread: 50mm Prime only challenge thread.

As for the Strobist gear, I'd recommend this youtube video:

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Wow! I had no idea about this lens. My husband will never let me back on here now! I've just added another item to my list!
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Reflector(s)...to manipulate that free light source from above.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:52 PM
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Well...I just ordered the "nifty-fifty". It should be here by Friday. I can't wait until it gets here! It's too exciting.
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Reflector(s)...to manipulate that free light source from above.
Agreed! Before investing in lighting, get yourself a reflector and learn how to use it. That and the 50mm f/1.8 will give you excellent results outdoors. About 90% of my outdoor portraits are done with my 50mm & reflector, I've never used OCF outdoors.
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