Tracks

[SwissJon]

I agree, the horizon is at the top 1/4 so it's broken the rules but like I said, the tracks were leaning down into the water at quite a sharp angle, so I'm limited.

My initial reason for coming to this lake was to capture reflections, so really that's what I was after, the tracks were a bonus. I think I'll come back here on a stiller day and try getting lower..

[2stroke]

I agree with EOBeav, because I use possibly overuse that method just a slight tweak on it; I use one RAW shot and dont seem to have a problem pushing or pulling the exposure 2 stops in either direction.

BUT (waxing poetic, or is it artistic?...)

I get the feeling that Jon wants to do as little "post" as possible, the getting it right in camera which is true and something to strive for. but post processing IS a part of photography including film days, it is just easier now in the digital. Besides (speaking for myself) what I try to capture is not only documenting the scene but imparting my flavor to it, we do that in many ways, shallow DOF, motion blur, panning, super silky water, macro, long exposure night and or celestial shots. All capture in camera something that the human eye would not have normally seen, post process goes along with in camera capture IMO.

[SwissJon]

Originally Posted by 2stroke

I agree with EOBeav, because I use possibly overuse that method just a slight tweak on it; I use one RAW shot and dont seem to have a problem pushing or pulling the exposure 2 stops in either direction.

BUT (waxing poetic, or is it artistic?...)

I get the feeling that Jon wants to do as little "post" as possible, the getting it right in camera which is true and something to strive for. but post processing IS a part of photography including film days, it is just easier now in the digital. Besides (speaking for myself) what I try to capture is not only documenting the scene but imparting my flavor to it, we do that in many ways, shallow DOF, motion blur, panning, super silky water, macro, long exposure night and or celestial shots. All capture in camera something that the human eye would not have normally seen, post process goes along with in camera capture IMO.

I'm not against PP 2stroke.. Far from it.. I just feel that PP should be there to make a great shot better, not to rescue poor camera work.. Getting it right in camera, for me, is a far more important part of photography than PP.. Anyway, I'd rather be out and about with my box of tricks than stuck indoors sitting in front of my computer.. I do that all day at work, for me, photography is a reason to get away from the screen, at least for a few hours. (My dog agrees!)

[2stroke]

Originally Posted by SwissJon

I'm not against PP 2stroke.. Far from it.. I just feel that PP should be there to make a great shot better, not to rescue poor camera work.. Getting it right in camera, for me, is a far more important part of photography than PP.. Anyway, I'd rather be out and about with my box of tricks than stuck indoors sitting in front of my computer.. I do that all day at work, for me, photography is a reason to get away from the screen, at least for a few hours. (My dog agrees!)

Then we are on the same page, PP is not for rescue work, tho I am guilty of that... I think I just made an incorrect leap.

You cant fix composition in post and that is the main thing to get right in camera.

Myself, I would like to and need to get OUT more to shoot but in lieu of that I do relax by fooling with post, sometimes way too late into the night

[EOBeav]

Originally Posted by 2stroke

I agree with EOBeav, because I use possibly overuse that method just a slight tweak on it; I use one RAW shot and dont seem to have a problem pushing or pulling the exposure 2 stops in either direction.

Good thoughts, and I have used that method myself. One thing you have to watch is that darker areas can generate a lot of noise when you bring bring their exposure up.

[SwissJon]

OK, I dug out one of the other photos I took that day, with a bit more sky.. The camera was still off the tracks, but the Rule of Thirds is better adhered to. The reason I didn't post it in the first place was because the water reflections weren't as clear because I used a shorter exposure time and I think there's a tiny amount of movement blur, and most of all, I had to crop it! But I think the lower horizon helps with the over all composition.

Creation date: 18/04/2011 17:26
Camera: NIKON D7000
Focal length: 16*mm*(equiv. 24*mm)
Aperture: F14
Exposure time: 2"
ISO speed rating: 100/21°
Program: Manual
Metering Mode: Center-weighted average
White Balance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode

[Krusty79]

This last one feels more balanced to me, since the amount of sky in the reflection matches the amount of sky I see above the horizon. I do see what you mean about the reflections, though.

[milosh]

I like the reflections in this one (haven't seen the first one) but I would like to see the tracks symetrical. This is a good location, very interesting.