b&w good feelings

[benchdog]

I'm starting to feel comfortable with b&W not making them to contrasty while still maintaining enough contrast to keep them from looking flat. Which leads to my first question. How is my contrast? Is the image to dark?

I really like the composition but worry that it may not ballance well. Do the tracks leading off to the left draw your attention there? Should I've used a higher angle so the tracks were more prominent farther into the image?

As always thank you for your valued input.



Camera Canon EOS 7D
Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture f/18.0
Focal Length 170 mm
ISO Speed 100

[Sterling]

I'm not sure how you did your conversion, but the tones seem off to me. The sky seems kind of muddy with the clouds being lost. And the snow (other than the tracks themselves) seems unnaturally dark. My brain knows that the sky is really blue. And it knows that snow is really white. But there is some confusion added here when the tone of the supposedly blue sky is the same grey as the supposedly white snow.

[benchdog]

Originally Posted by Sterling

I'm not sure how you did your conversion, but the tones seem off to me. The sky seems kind of muddy with the clouds being lost. And the snow (other than the tracks themselves) seems unnaturally dark. My brain knows that the sky is really blue. And it knows that snow is really white. But there is some confusion added here when the tone of the supposedly blue sky is the same grey as the supposedly white snow.

Thank you Sterling

My problem and what attracked me with this is the snow is reflecting the same hue as the sky. For me it is part of what draws me to the image.

[SwissJon]

I think you should tweak the colours a little so the green in the trees is a bit darker.. At the moment they're a lIttle lost in the background..

Otherwise I like this.

[benchdog]

Originally Posted by SwissJon

I think you should tweak the colours a little so the green in the trees is a bit darker.. At the moment they're a lIttle lost in the background..

Otherwise I like this.

Thats the part I struggle with. When I tweak the colors or contrast I lose details. Not sure how to accomplish keeping the details when I start tweaking.

[Sterling]

Originally Posted by benchdog

Thank you Sterling

My problem and what attracked me with this is the snow is reflecting the same hue as the sky. For me it is part of what draws me to the image.

Then perhaps you should leave it in color. Without color there is no hue. If it was the color that drew you in, you've put your viewers at a bit of a disadvantage by draining that color out.

[benchdog]

Originally Posted by Sterling

Then perhaps you should leave it in color. Without color there is no hue. If it was the color that drew you in, you've put your viewers at a bit of a disadvantage by draining that color out.

Excellant point Sterling

[navcom]

Sterling is right. If color is what attracted you to it, color should be what you portray. A photog mentor of mine years ago told me don't just convert or shoot stuff in black and white unless you have a reason...and that reason usually has to deal with contrasts in the image. If there isn't noticeable contrasts, the image usually won't work in B&W.

B&W photogs used to use colored filters to enhance contrasts...contrasts that wouldn't be seen without the filter and would be enhanced in other ways in color.

Hope that helps!

[benchdog]

Originally Posted by navcom

Sterling is right. If color is what attracted you to it, color should be what you portray. A photog mentor of mine years ago told me don't just convert or shoot stuff in black and white unless you have a reason...and that reason usually has to deal with contrasts in the image. If there isn't noticeable contrasts, the image usually won't work in B&W.

B&W photogs used to use colored filters to enhance contrasts...contrasts that wouldn't be seen without the filter and would be enhanced in other ways in color.

Hope that helps!

Great points navcom it really helps.

Thanks

This is the color image

[rmpillai]

hi buddy,

if you can just B&W only snow , tree and sky and leave the mountain as the same it will be really xcellent.............. way to go man all the best

cheers
Raj pillai