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I just got my 24-70 L lens last week. I am so happy I forked out the cash. It provides exactly what my images have been missing. Pro look!
I hardly used any photo shop in the post. I upped the vibrance by 10 percent and used the healing tool to rid of some unwanted water spots. That's it!

The set up was a fish tank. 10 gal. $12.00
A piece of vinyl ( from my sign cutter ) for background color.
A chopping board left with aluminum foil wrapped around it.
Strobist left 2 feet above tank pointed down at angle. Lowest setting.
Strobist front right side angled up to top of water. Lowest flash setting.

Camera settings. f/7 1/160 ISO 200

I had a good setup and the light was great. I probably took 50 total shots. The amount of keepers was an excellent ratio. I could never say that before with my stock lens. Never!

Here are a few favorites. Please tell me honestly what you think. I know there is always room for improvement.



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It provides exactly what my images have been missing. Pro look!
No, it doesn't, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Love the pictures. Great work!
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Simply having an L series lens is never, ever going to give you a pro look.

What will give you a pro look is doing things right, taking your time, learning as much as you can and applying that and a ton of other things in the right way at the same time and not giving up after a year(s) of consistently failing.

That being said --nice job. I've always wanted to dable around in this kind of stuff. Just never had the time. Keep at 'er.

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No, it doesn't, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
A reason as to why they do not look good would have been great. And the lens does help. It provides great clarity and even color tone over my stock lens.
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How arrogant of Osmosis Studios to make that comment and not back it up with reasons. How are people going to learn if those so called professionals won't help them. If you don't agree with some ones explanations of their photos please have the decency to tell them why.
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I think what you have done is excellent for a first attempt. If you go back in this site for about a week or so you will see my exact attempts at the same - "Strawberries and Cream". It is not easy and I had at least 50 shots that went into the dust bin. Yes, you can use additional gear such as "Stop Shot" etc and that will cut down the failure rate considerably - but it is not cheap. Getting the lighting right with water is also another problem and you seem to have done very well again.

I would be interested to know whether you set your focusing up with live view or manual through view finder?
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I thought this was one forum out of the many where is wasn't necessary to be cutting and nasty. Osmosis Studios should go hang around dpreview if he wants to make and receive a bunch of rude remarks.
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A reason as to why they do not look good would have been great. And the lens does help. It provides great clarity and even color tone over my stock lens.
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How arrogant of Osmosis Studios to make that comment and not back it up with reasons. How are people going to learn if those so called professionals won't help them. If you don't agree with some ones explanations of their photos please have the decency to tell them why.
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I thought this was one forum out of the many where is wasn't necessary to be cutting and nasty. Osmosis Studios should go hang around dpreview if he wants to make and receive a bunch of rude remarks.
Did ANY of you read what I quoted? Here, let's try again:

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It provides exactly what my images have been missing. Pro look!
A lens does not provide a "PRO LOOK". There's no such thing. A lens may be sharper, or have better contrast, but it does NOT provide a "pro look". It helps in making technically nicer images, but it doesn't make you look like a pro.

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You’re right, DJB.

It takes a good many shots to get a nice water dunk picture. If you get a better percentage with an L series lens then that’s saving you time and is worth it for you. I think you made some very valid points in your notes. You are to be commended for your efforts and experimentation.

There are many and various ways to shoot through glass and Glenn Rand has a book here:

Lighting and Photographing Transparent and Translucent Surfaces: A ... - Glenn Rand - Google Books that shows some of his examples.

I don’t see an action shot like yours in the book but he suggests lighting methods for glass that may be of interest.

Your efforts inspire others to try it…..so here’s a different version.. it’s not the close-up of yours and is not processed after the exposure except for cropping.

No “L series” lens used so don’t expect the same feel or quality as your shots. I used a slave flash from under the glass top table to light the pitcher from below and key light on the camera. This might be something different that you’d like to try. f/8, 1/250th, ISO 200, 50mm lens.

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