#1 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2009, 02:26 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Default Landscape Observation

I've been photographing for many years. My favorite subject is Landscapes. I've noticed since moving from film to digital that many landscape images on the web now have what appears to be a sky with a very pronounced shape. Instead of s smooth gradation from top to bottom it has the appearance of a smile. Is the becasue of the lens choice?


Thanks
Jimbob
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2009, 03:02 PM
Murtasma's Avatar
Critique Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 4,162
Default

That's because there are a bunch of people over using tone mapping processes that create areas where the image is way too sharp, mostly trees or areas where fine details are present. These details are then lost giving a muddy look. The sky muddiness also comes from halo's produced by the tone mapping process.

Tone mapping can be done correctly and look fantastic but, if you can't post process an image and make it look great with out tone mapping your really limiting yourself when you resort to tone mapping to correct something that should be corrected by getting it right in the camera or using a saturation or curve adjustment with masking. Creating a tone mapped image then placing the normally exposed image on top and using opacity to blend in it and make it look more natural works well in some situations but not all.

I use the term tone mapping here because that's what it is. Standard computer monitors are not capable of displaying true HDR images they need to be tone mapped to display in a computer screen. There are such things as HDR monitors but they are very expensive. I'm actually sick of hearing the term HDR, I wish more people would use term tone mapping because that's what your effectively doing when you start moving all those sliders around throwing data out.

Trey Ratcliff is a well know photograph who uses HDR / Tone mapping as a crutch for the lack of interesting subjects and compositional elements in most of his images.

Here you can see an example of images that have been heavily tone mapped.
http://www.stuckincustoms.com/

View the images large and you will see hardly any of his images are actually sharp at all. He has pretty good control over his halo's but his images have too much saturation, boring composition and creativity. Most of his images are taken at eye level or near ground level because that's the most convenient way for him to setup his tripod.

Also notice some of the images really lack depth because of the lack of shadows. Having dark shadows is not a bad thing it can help establish a mood in an image something many of his images lack. Some of his pictures have way too much mood and becomes over powering.

He does however have a few images I think that are really good but the tone mapping or photoshop texturing process ruined them because it distracts from the subject of the photograph.



Take everything I said with a grain of salt some people love it, some swore by it, others hate it.

To each his own but to answer your question that's why you see what you see.

Last edited by Murtasma; 08-27-2009 at 03:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2009, 03:23 PM
Not photogenic
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 821
Default

Perhaps an example photo would help.

From your description, I would suspect that what you're seeing is from the widespread use of polarizing filters on wide-angle lenses. The result is that some parts of the sky are more affected by the polarizer than others are.

Polarizers are generally touted as a "must have" for landscape photos, and I think that does a disservice. Personally, I almost never use my polarizer for darkening skies. Proper exposure does the trick without introducing uneven effects across the photo.

And as bonus I can use a lower ISO, faster shutter speed, and/or tighter aperture since I don't have the light loss from the polarizer.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2009, 03:27 PM
Murtasma's Avatar
Critique Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 4,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Pardee View Post
Perhaps an example photo would help.

From your description, I would suspect that what you're seeing is from the widespread use of polarizing filters on wide-angle lenses. The result is that some parts of the sky are more affected by the polarizer than others are.

Polarizers are generally touted as a "must have" for landscape photos, and I think that does a disservice. Personally, I almost never use my polarizer for darkening skies. Proper exposure does the trick without introducing uneven effects across the photo.

And as bonus I can use a lower ISO, faster shutter speed, and/or tighter aperture since I don't have the light loss from the polarizer.
I stopped using polarizers on wide angle shots for this same very reason.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2009, 05:02 PM
sk66's Avatar
Lovable Contrarian
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 6,742
Default

I've seen some cameras do similar...I think it may be an issue with using P/S or cheaper lens at max wide angle....not sure.

(it's kind of the opposite effect of vignetting, maybe refraction?)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

What’s Your Preference?

Daily Digest

Each day we send out a quick email to thousands of DPS readers to notify them of updates. This email is just short excerpt of the first few lines of our latest post with a link if you want to read it all. You can unsubscribe from this this service at any time.

This service is provided by a third party (Feedburner) and you can subscribe to it by leaving your email address in the following field and confirming your subscription when you get an email asking you to do so.

Enter your email address for
Daily Updates:

Weekly Summary

For those wanting a weekly summary of what happens on this site this free email newsletter is probably your best option. It includes a summary of the tips posted to the site each week. This newsletter is subscribed to by over 25000 readers (many who also subscribe to the other options above) - come join the community!

To subscribe to this weekly newsletter simply add your email address to the following field and then follow the confirmation prompts. You will be able to unsubscribe at any time.

Enter your email address for
Free Weekly Newsletter:

 
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0