Had the "Photoshop is cheating" discussion with a classmate

[AnnaV]

Doing a photography evening course and one of the girls starting oign on about how proper photographers don't use Photoshop, it's cheating, and apparently all her photos show EXACTLY what she can see

Even with our (professional photographer) tutor trying to say that almost all pro photographers do image manipulations (and had been for decades in the darkroom) but she wasn't having any of it.

Was good to use some of the arguments people have brought up here while discussing it with her though

We have a Photoshop lesson next Tuesday so we'll see how much see changes her tune!

[Jim Bryant]

Tell her she's do-do. That all phographers use photoshop to PP their images.

True, they are a few or a lot out there that use photoshop to perform image manipulations to one degree or another. Most of us use only toning, levels, curves and color balance to adjust our images.

Photo shop is probably over her head and beyond her comprehension to grasp. It's either that or she can't afford a copy even at student discount.

Who know maybe she thinks she's another Ansel Adams.

[oldwolf]

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

Who know maybe she thinks she's another Ansel Adams.

Even Ansel Adams did post processing in the darkroom if I remember correctly.

[dakwegmo]

Isn't Ansel Adams the one who said that "dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships."

[Jim Bryant]

Originally Posted by dakwegmo

Isn't Ansel Adams the one who said that "dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships."

No that was the famous photojournalist W. Eugene Smith.

[AnnaV]

Oh fab, lots of ammo for Tues, looking forward to it now

[oldwolf]

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

No that was the famous photojournalist W. Eugene Smith.

Eugene....Ansel....they both start with a vowel.

[Jim Bryant]

Originally Posted by oldwolf

Eugene....Ansel....they both start with a vowel.

Yes, and we have Eddie Adams.......the former AP photographer, who started the Eddie Adams Barnyard photographic workshops.

[Gonzo13]

I remember the darkroom in high school for yearbook and newspaper, back in 93-95. We would always adjust the pictures, brighten them, crop them, and resizing them for assignments. We also had four walls full of pictures that we altered, solarizing them, putting multiple frames together, using filters, putting people into frames they weren't supposed to be in, general goofing around. Photoshop is just a new way to do all of those things and many other things that we couldn't do back then.

I don't know what a proper photographer is but if they are people that only use what comes SOOC them wouldn't shooting in RAW go against that?

[Fotogreen]

some of your comments are too funny