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Old 04-14-2010, 04:28 AM
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I have a D90 and i shoot RAW, when viewing an image on my LCD it looks good but when downloaded on my computer here is what happens:

-images downloaded
-when open to view it shows how it looked on my camera LCD, but then in a split of a second image changes..like it was waiting to load and displays it a bit differently that what i originally saw.

1st i though that it was Lightroom making changes, but then viewed another image on a different computer with Picasa and same thing happens.

Anyone know why? m i doing something wrong?
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:42 AM
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I also use the D90 and this happens to me as well. But I don't shoot in RAW. But as soon as I open the photo in ViewNX it takes the photo a second to become sharper or clear. Not sure if that is what you mean or not.

My problem has been that the LCD shows me a real sharp nice photo and then when I get it uploaded the photo is not as sharp as I thought I had according to the LCD screen.

Hopefully someone with a lot more experience can help with both our problems.
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:13 PM
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I've noticed that some programs seem to display images differently - in particular, a file viewed on the native image viewer on my Linux system looks subtly different from the same file in GIMP. Perhaps it's an artifact of resizing, or maybe some image viewers try to "improve" the picture (maybe sharpening? saturation?).
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There is a jpeg imbedded in the RAW file. This is what displays on your camera when you take a picture in raw. When you load it on the computer, the thumbnail is often the jpeg as well. When you open a RAW converter to work on your picture, the jpeg often comes up first while the huge 20MB raw data is being processed. Once it is all loaded, the screen changes over to the raw data.
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There is a jpeg imbedded in the RAW file. This is what displays on your camera when you take a picture in raw. When you load it on the computer, the thumbnail is often the jpeg as well. When you open a RAW converter to work on your picture, the jpeg often comes up first while the huge 20MB raw data is being processed. Once it is all loaded, the screen changes over to the raw data.
Bingo.

Remember, all the bits that the camera is doing between *sensor* and *card* you have to do yourself with your software when you shoot RAW. So there's more work and a lot of change from one to the other
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There is a jpeg imbedded in the RAW file. This is what displays on your camera when you take a picture in raw. When you load it on the computer, the thumbnail is often the jpeg as well. When you open a RAW converter to work on your picture, the jpeg often comes up first while the huge 20MB raw data is being processed. Once it is all loaded, the screen changes over to the raw data.
What he said.

You can have some fun with this by changing your in-camera settings, for example change to shooting in black and white or shift the colors, and you can see the effects on the lcd image review without making any real changes to the RAW file. Once they are open in Camera Raw, you will see that the changes were not applied.
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Thank you all, this provides more insight into my question.

What you said about JPEG embedded in RAW, this makes perfect sense now. But i believe i also noticed same thing happening when shooting JPEG, haven done it in a while so not sure - may need to test it.

My issue is, often i like the image better when it's first displayed - i think when RAW data is loaded its worse - it just doesn't look as good
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My issue is, often i like the image better when it's first displayed - i think when RAW data is loaded its worse - it just doesn't look as good
Well, yea. An image that has the constrast tweaked, colors enhanced and the whole image sharpened is going to look a little better than one that isn't.
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My issue is, often i like the image better when it's first displayed - i think when RAW data is loaded its worse - it just doesn't look as good
I thought that that was the beauty of shooting RAW. You get to decide what corrections/processing YOU want to do. I believe the term is, "complete control".
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