Tokina ATX glass vs Nikon DX

[crazzy88ss]

I own the tokina 12-24 f4 for nikon.

I love it. I used it 90% of the time for my yosemite trip. Check here to see what it can do: http://flickr.com/photos/stephenkirsh/

It's quite enjoyable!

[digi.film]

WoW Stephen... those are nice! I faved "Sequioa"!

I hope to have the 12-24 soon. Just a matter of time, saving up the $$, and life not getting in the way.

[Cuchulainn]

Originally Posted by digi.film

Isn't the term... "Human Form" now used? Very PC. I have idea's for nudes, maybe even uncommon idea's, but nowadays I think I'd be a tad mortified, for lack of a better word.

Hmmm. Not to my knowledge, but then again many of those "PC" terms never really stuck. The place I take workshops from still offers titles such as "Artistic Nude" and "Abstract Nude." They had not changed the names last time I looked at their offerings .

Websters has among its definitions of "nude" - devoid of a natural or conventional covering; especially : not covered by clothing or a drape. I am not sure what isn't "PC" about that .

That seems to be a pretty fair description. I mean it isn't like we take on Bear, Wolf, Dog, Cow, Chicken or even Un-Human Form when we have clothes on right? We are "Human Form" regardless of how much or how little we are dressed. Some of those terms get a little silly imho

[digi.film]

Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

Some of those terms get a little silly imho

I would agree.

Well, with the exception of 77mm, as of earlier this evening I'm well covered on CPL's. Problem with the 77mm is all I can find is the new CPL II type, but I prefer the older style Nikon CPL's. I can see how the newer thin 77mm would be better for wide angle glass though

Still got my sights on the 12-24 Tokina, but I'm thinking I may shoot for the 24-85mm D first. Quite possibly this week!

[Cuchulainn]

Yes, absolutely. The thin CPS filters work brilliantly to reduce/prevent vignetting on the wide angle lenses, which as you know can be a problem. I don't have the Nikon 77mm, but people seem to rave about it. No vignetting and no color cast. I have the 77mm Hoya SMC thin filters. That also works very well!

Originally Posted by digi.film

I can see how the newer thin 77mm would be better for wide angle glass though

[digi.film]

Expensive chunks of glass, those 77mm's.

[RussHeath]

Depending on the range you're after, you might want to consider the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 instead of the 12-24. The very narrow zoom range makes it more equivalent to an ultrawide prime than a zoom, but it's lots of fun, faster, and by most comparisons significantly sharper at f/4 than the 12-24 (as you would expect given that it's stopped down a little).

I have a set on my flickr stream taken with that lens, and I've really enjoyed it so far. At f/2.8 it's still quite sharp in the center of the frame, making it very useable in low(er) light.

[digi.film]

Thanks for pointing me to your set Russ, and the suggestion.

I have thought about wider lens and the 11~16 is a contender when the time comes... later. For now I'm working on the 12~24 and 24~70/85 range in better lens' than what I now have, but at the same time practical. I can't see myself paying $1000 + for glass unless I get to a point where I'm getting paid to do photography. Same goes for bodies... the most expensive I could see myself with being a D700 and that would be a reach. The S5 I got last month is the most expensive camera I have ever bought. I need to "work it"!

That will take me long enough to put together. After that, super/ultra wide's, fisheye's, micro's and tele-zooms will all be considered as I see a need for them, and as they relate to my interests.

[digi.film]

Too add... I recently found a site you all may or may not know about, www.slrgear.com .

I've been reading alot of the reviews on lens' there, and gaining a knowledge of particular lens' "sweet spots". Good stuff to know... I'm taking notes!!