sell a photograph for a logo??? advice please

[FrankLamont]

Get a deposit at least.

I wouldn't do all copyright, just certain rights. That should be completely enough for them... talk to a solicitor.

[waffles]

Even with that new idea though, they're using it until the time comes for no money. I still don't like it.

[Alexandra]

The way i see it he might use it anyway, with or without my accord... Being my ex-husband he knows me enough to be sure that i hate going to courts etc...

And if i dont give it to him... all the hell will break lose... Lose lose situation for me... But thank you for all the advice. i will try and negotiate to keep most of my rights for the photo (except re-selling) and see what happens...

[waffles]

And that's the problem. Take the fact that he's your ex husband out of this. Would you do the deal for someone else? Would you go to court if it was someone else?

[Alexandra]

Taking out of the picture the fact that its my ex-husband i would laugh at such an offer and tell the willing customer either to get lost or to come back with an offer when at a bare minimum they can pay... And yes, i would take them to court for using my work without approval...

Originally Posted by Alexandra

The way i see it he might use it anyway, with or without my accord... Being my ex-husband he knows me enough to be sure that i hate going to courts etc...

And if i dont give it to him... all the hell will break lose... Lose lose situation for me... But thank you for all the advice. i will try and negotiate to keep most of my rights for the photo (except re-selling) and see what happens...

*sigh*

How do I ask this politely.

"Why do you allow him to have some much power over you?" - kids, emotionally, and now with photos...

If you bend now and allow him to do this to you he'll do it over and over again. He knows this is a hot button for you and uses it to his advantage to get you to do things. What will he ask next? Money? Cars?

Don't let him hold you hostage like that.

~Eric

[digirebelva]

Agree with the others, if simply bringing up"the kids" gets you to roll over...at what point does it stop...where does the line get drawn...you are about to get taken for a ride...because he knows which buttons to push....my bet, with those conditions..especially the type of film that needs to be produced before payment is forthcoming...your kids might and I mean might one day see the money...
Remember, this is a business decision dont make it personal..even if it is your "ex"...keep the emotions out of it or your thinking will be clouded...and he wins

This thread is just too awesome for words.

Not taking ex-husband into account:
Treat it like any other photo for any other business. $500 for royalty-free rights, $5,000 for exclusive (or something similar). The terms he provided are pretty damn funny

Taking your ex-husband into account:
Your personal problems are yours, and only you and those close to you know your situation. It's no longer a business decision...it's a personal problem. Deal with it as such.

[BryanC]

Originally Posted by rt80639

Your personal problems are yours, and only you and those close to you know your situation. It's no longer a business decision...it's a personal problem. Deal with it as such.

I agree,... it's really no longer a photography business related topic.

[Mr Guy]

Do at least try to determine what the actual value the photograph has to you before you worry too much about theoretical money in the future. While I respect many of the opinions around here and understand that their living is tied to the value of their work, I do think what is occasionally missed is the advice to know when something simply isn't worth the trouble. Good will does have value, and if giving an ex the picture to make him go away is worth the potential value the image has to you, than any future gains are just gravy.