getting models permission to use image

[superqaz]

hi

i took a pic at a public demo of dancing at a community centre. legally, do i require permmission to sell it for editorial use

[this question could be in a different situation] if the subject gives permission to freely use a digital image is it normal/proffessioal to give them [a] a print or [b] a useable digital image [c] rights to use the image.

i realize it would good to ask for permission even if not legally required.

this relates to the uk

thanks all
mark

[maxharvard]

Most likely you do. Check your local laws.

[jdepould]

Selling for editorial use in a publication isn't commercial. Advertising is commercial. Is it going to be an ad?

[superqaz]

good point, dont know yet, but cant see it being for advertizing, editorial i suspect

Originally Posted by jdepould

Selling for editorial use in a publication isn't commercial. Advertising is commercial. Is it going to be an ad?

[Jim Bryant]

Since the community center is open to the public, as it was a public event, you could technically sell it to a newspaper. But, while getting the names for the cutline info, it's always good Identify yourself and inform the couple why you shot their photo and what you are planning to do with it. It's always to followed good journalism practices and get the who, what, when , where and why's (5W's) before submitting any photo to a publication. It just makes you look more on the ball, instead of the editor asking, "Did you happen to get their names?" and then sheepishly replying "no". Always do as much work possible so that someone else doesn't have to take busy time out of their workload to follow up on yours. If you sell it for an ad, you'll need a model release signed.

Originally Posted by superqaz

hi

i took a pic at a public demo of dancing at a community centre. legally, do i require permmission to sell it for editorial use

[this question could be in a different situation] if the subject gives permission to freely use a digital image is it normal/proffessioal to give them [a] a print or [b] a useable digital image [c] rights to use the image.

i realize it would good to ask for permission even if not legally required.

this relates to the uk

thanks all
mark

[superqaz]

thanks, that sounds about right, have names etc already. i still need some info regarding the other questions below. especially to know if they should have rights to use the image

"[this question could be in a different situation] if the subject gives permission to freely use a digital image is it normal/proffessioal to give them [a] a print or [b] a useable digital image [c] rights to use the image"

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

Since the community center is open to the public, as it was a public event, you could technically sell it to a newspaper. But, while getting the names for the cutline info, it's always good Identify yourself and inform the couple why you shot their photo and what you are planning to do with it. It's always to followed good journalism practices and get the who, what, when , where and why's (5W's) before submitting any photo to a publication. It just makes you look more on the ball, instead of the editor asking, "Did you happen to get their names?" and then sheepishly replying "no". Always do as much work possible so that someone else doesn't have to take busy time out of their workload to follow up on yours. If you sell it for an ad, you'll need a model release signed.

[Jim Bryant]

If they ask for a picture, sometimes I'll email them a Low Res, but normally if they don't ask I won't bring it up. Because....if the newspaper publishes it, couple sees it and wants to purchase a photo, that's extra money to you. Make sure if it's a daily twice weekly or weekly paper. If it's a daily, they might not use it, as yesterday's news is old news. But weekly and twice weeklies don't worry so much about daily deadlines that normally a daily does.

[superqaz]

thanks that almost clears up everything except for:
[c] should they have rights to use the image"

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

If they ask for a picture, sometimes I'll email them a Low Res, but normally if they don't ask I won't bring it up. Because....if the newspaper publishes it, couple sees it and wants to purchase a photo, that's extra money to you. Make sure if it's a daily twice weekly or weekly paper. If it's a daily, they might not use it, as yesterday's news is old news. But weekly and twice weeklies don't worry so much about daily deadlines that normally a daily does.

[Jim Poor]

Only if they buy them. You could give them some usage rights "just to be nice," but nice doesn't pay the bills.

Originally Posted by superqaz

thanks that almost clears up everything except for:
[c] should they have rights to use the image"

[superqaz]

Originally Posted by Jim Poor

Only if they buy them. You could give them some usage rights "just to be nice," but nice doesn't pay the bills.

yeah thats what i figured...thanx