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    I recently created a website via Zenfolio and just used one of the watermarks they offered. For the time being I just want a simple watermark...my name with a nice font. This is what I've come up with and would like some opinions.

    Is it too large/distracting?

    Does it show up good enough on different backgrounds?

    Should I make it more opaque?

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    Watermarks = 100% useless.

    Why? Photoshop. If someone wants to TAKE your image and remove that watermark...done. And you can't do crap about it without a silly amount of legal fees.

    If you put a watermark on your image..in my opinion, it flat out ruins it.

    The moon shot - doesn't need a watermark. Pictures of the moon have been taken ever since Lippershey invented the telescope. Nothing about it is original or unique. Who cares if someone steals a photo of the moon?
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    If you are looking for the watermark to simply advertise you, then I guess it is OK - although I can hardly see it in #2 and #3. If you are looking to provide "some" protection against theft/unauthorised use, then this is not going to cut it. Placing it there means a simple crop will remove it - the thief doesn't need any cloning or healing tools.
    Maximum effectiveness - at least in the centre of the image. You will then need to decide if that kind of placement is the price you are willing to pay for viewing the image. Some photographer's hate it, others see it as a necessary evil. More effective is the watermark being repeated multiple times over the image - not around the edges. The idea is that the thief can't be bothered and will move on to easier pickings.
    For a watermark that works equally well on dark and light backgrounds, you might want to think about a "bevel and emboss" effect. Bold text is harder to clone away than very thin.
    Only you can decided if your circumstances dictate the use of watermarks. I watermark every image I upload to my website +20,000 ... because my main "lookers" are kids.
    I also only upload low res 1000px images. Does that stop the kids from pinching photos - hell no ... BUT/BUT/BUT not once have the kids removed my watermark so every person who looks at their facebook site, knows who took the photo. They also can't print much of a photo. But the kids are not interested in printing. They only want to share or show online or in phones.
    So you decide how important watermark will be and balance it against the aesthetic qualities of your images and balance it against what role you want the watermark to play (advertising, security, etc).

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    I will now show you a thread I had about a photo that had a "watermark" but more so just some advertising

    Here is the link

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    Watermarks = 100% useless.
    This isn't exactly true.

    Watermarks are fantastic for viral marketing (ie across social media).

    Also, they can help prevent theft. It's true, if someone REALLY wants it, they will get it. But watermarking your images is like parking your bentley next to a mondeo - people will steal the mondeo because it's less effort. (and like wise, if people really want a Bentley, they'll take it anyway)

    To the OP, think about your watermark from outside the box. Your watermark should be easy to trace, there are 41,400,000 results for "jack baker" on Google, I didn't look, but I'm guessing most of the result pages don't show you ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLWRTHNU View Post
    I will now show you a thread I had about a photo that had a "watermark" but more so just some advertising

    Here is the link
    I like your new watermark - looks good, covers the important parts (and lots of it) but is subtle enough to still appreciate the image.
    Sad to read your story - but probably a lesson that some watermark placements are not that effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomech View Post
    This isn't exactly true.

    Watermarks are fantastic for viral marketing (ie across social media).

    Also, they can help prevent theft. It's true, if someone REALLY wants it, they will get it. But watermarking your images is like parking your bentley next to a mondeo - people will steal the mondeo because it's less effort. (and like wise, if people really want a Bentley, they'll take it anyway)

    To the OP, think about your watermark from outside the box. Your watermark should be easy to trace, there are 41,400,000 results for "jack baker" on Google, I didn't look, but I'm guessing most of the result pages don't show you ;P
    What then in your opinion would be better, I quickly did that to get rid of the giant "C" in the middle that Zenfolio has as a choice for watermarks.

    Does Google/others use watermarks as keywords when searching?

    Would "Jack Baker Photos" be better? When I search "Jack Baker Photos" on Google my site shows up near the top...at least on my machine it does.

    Thanks for the reply!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceCo55 View Post
    If you are looking for the watermark to simply advertise you, then I guess it is OK - although I can hardly see it in #2 and #3. If you are looking to provide "some" protection against theft/unauthorised use, then this is not going to cut it. Placing it there means a simple crop will remove it - the thief doesn't need any cloning or healing tools.
    Maximum effectiveness - at least in the centre of the image. You will then need to decide if that kind of placement is the price you are willing to pay for viewing the image. Some photographer's hate it, others see it as a necessary evil. More effective is the watermark being repeated multiple times over the image - not around the edges. The idea is that the thief can't be bothered and will move on to easier pickings.
    For a watermark that works equally well on dark and light backgrounds, you might want to think about a "bevel and emboss" effect. Bold text is harder to clone away than very thin.
    Only you can decided if your circumstances dictate the use of watermarks. I watermark every image I upload to my website +20,000 ... because my main "lookers" are kids.
    I also only upload low res 1000px images. Does that stop the kids from pinching photos - hell no ... BUT/BUT/BUT not once have the kids removed my watermark so every person who looks at their facebook site, knows who took the photo. They also can't print much of a photo. But the kids are not interested in printing. They only want to share or show online or in phones.
    So you decide how important watermark will be and balance it against the aesthetic qualities of your images and balance it against what role you want the watermark to play (advertising, security, etc).

    I tried to find your site to check it out but couldn't.
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    Changed the watermark again...photos above reflect the new one...not sure if it is much better but should point to my site better if someone should try to find it based on the watermark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxhouse View Post
    I tried to find your site to check it out but couldn't.
    I have sent you a pm

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