Probably Dumb Resizing Question

[sk66]

Or print 8x12....

She probably just thinks 8x10 is the only "standard" option around that size.

[amy_bb]

Originally Posted by sk66

Clone in the BG.

BG?

I have been staring at this for a while and still recovering from the Buffalo Bills ugly loss today so pls "BG"? Background?

Right? Clone in the background? Ooohhh. I think I can do that!

[Sweetlifephoto]

Originally Posted by amy_bb

BG?

I have been staring at this for a while and still recovering from the Buffalo Bills ugly loss today so pls "BG"? Background?

Right? Clone in the background? Ooohhh. I think I can do that!

Amy,

Yes, you could clone in more background at the top of the image to fill the gap caused by using an 8x10 crop. However that would only make the composition more bottom heavy and less appealing. In fact a 7x14 would actually look much better. Additionally, you would eat up any profit you might be making on a couple of prints in the time spent cloning.

[ChrisAdval]

this should be in the Post Processing and Printing

[BK553]

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

this should be in the Post Processing and Printing

Chris, give it a rest. I so tired of your "advice" to people who have been active in these forums for years, and shooting longer than that. It's great that you're interested in photography, and you're obviously enthusiastic, but almost everything I've seen you contribute has been either bad advice, advice you've clearly just regurgitated from others, or questions that have already been asked/answered. The forum mods do an excellent job deciding what goes where, and they'll take care of this stuff. Just don't say anything if you have nothing to contribute.

This belongs here because it deals with client expectations, commercial printer services, and problems that pros deal with that general shooters may not (customer preference over photographers choice)

Anyway, Amy, I'd say you're best bet is to try and work it out on the customer side, try to make them understand that technically there is no way to change the photo and have everyone still in it. On the Photoshop side it's probably possible, but probably not worth the time it would take, and you'll still end up losing something. Remember that 8x10, 8x12 are ratios, not resolutions. You can use the crop tool (the corners/diagonal line) to choose a ratio without changing the size of the image/canvas.

CS5 does have "Content-Aware" scaling, which allows you to resize while the software tries to keep the important things in proportion, and remove the unimportant things. It's a crapshoot though. I gave it a shot and ended up with , the guy on the left got scrunched a bit, but overall it did okay I guess.

[amy_bb]

Originally Posted by BK553

Chris, give it a rest. I so tired of your "advice" to people who have been active in these forums for years, and shooting longer than that. It's great that you're interested in photography, and you're obviously enthusiastic, but almost everything I've seen you contribute has been either bad advice, advice you've clearly just regurgitated from others, or questions that have already been asked/answered. The forum mods do an excellent job deciding what goes where, and they'll take care of this stuff. Just don't say anything if you have nothing to contribute.

This belongs here because it deals with client expectations, commercial printer services, and problems that pros deal with that general shooters may not (customer preference over photographers choice)

Thanks, BK553. Rather than respond that the mods are perfectly capable of moving any thread deemed inappropriately place, I purposely waited 2 days to see if they were going to move it. They didn't as I suspected they wouldn't. You have expressed my sentiments exactly above. Muchas Gracias.

Originally Posted by BK553

Anyway, Amy, I'd say you're best bet is to try and work it out on the customer side, try to make them understand that technically there is no way to change the photo and have everyone still in it. On the Photoshop side it's probably possible, but probably not worth the time it would take, and you'll still end up losing something. Remember that 8x10, 8x12 are ratios, not resolutions. You can use the crop tool (the corners/diagonal line) to choose a ratio without changing the size of the image/canvas.

Good advice. I did tell her to that her best bet was to keep it at 8x12. She ordered 2 of these and 2 6x9's from me and I think she will be satisfied with the print.

Originally Posted by BK553

CS5 does have "Content-Aware" scaling, which allows you to resize while the software tries to keep the important things in proportion, and remove the unimportant things. It's a crapshoot though. I gave it a shot and ended up with , the guy on the left got scrunched a bit, but overall it did okay I guess.

I have to get better at sizing photos using the crop tools and scaling. I've seen a little bit of the "content aware" on my CS5 but I haven't played with it yet. It's a good rainy day project for me to get more familiar with sizing photos and scaling so that I can offer the best products to my customers. I think you did a nice job w/the photo scaling and I may give it a go myself to see if I can replicate your results.

[autofocus]

Originally Posted by Sweetlifephoto

Sorry but you can't do it without cutting someone or part of someone out of the image. You need to leave more room on the sides when shooting large groups if you think folks might want an 8x10.

^ditto this^ Most DSLR's produce images as a 2x3 aspect ratio. So, any multiple of 2x3 can be printed without any loss within the image. That being the case your 2x3 multiple options are 4x6, 8x12, 12x18, 16x24, etc. Being that 5x7, 8x10, 11x14, albeit standard sizes, are not multiples of 2x3, you will incur some loss in the image. Your only choice here is 8x12. Any attempt to force an 8x10 out of this will only wind up with a distorted subject matter.