Is it possible to earn money to get published?

[ChrisAdval]

And I don't mean get hired by the publisher to shoot, but have already shot photos and then get paid to published and used in their publication.

[andyw]

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

And I don't mean get hired by the publisher to shoot, but have already shot photos and then get paid to published and used in their publication.

Yes, many of us do exactly that.

[Jim Bryant]

Contact the editor or picture editor of your target magazine/newspaper and tell them what you have.

[ChrisAdval]

thanks guys, but is their certain type of specific tactics to get published besides just contacting the editors?

[Jim Bryant]

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

thanks guys, but is their certain type of specific tactics to get published besides just contacting the editors?

Set up appointment to showcase your work. Get a portfolio together.

[JFSanders]

Chris, Try to get the book by John Harrington, Best business practices for the photographer. There is a wealth of information in there and he discusses what photo editors look for and how they prefer to receive submissions.

Now for the downside. Most publications pay dismally or less. You will get worked over like a two bit whore if you don't know how the game is played. The desire to see one's name published next to a image has created a massive flood of the image market. See, the post about how stock photography has committed suicide.

Now if you have some truly unique images that you believe will be attractive to the photo editor and you truly understand just what it is that you own and how to price the use of according to the principles of copyright, then it may be to your advantage to seek out this relationship. But understand that the photo editor has his known and befriended providers and go to photographers, otherwise he/she would not be the photo editor or higher up the food chain. So you will have to do your home work and put in the effort to break into the starting lineup.

Good luck and hope to see you be successful.

Jim

[ChrisAdval]

Originally Posted by Jim Bryant

Set up appointment to showcase your work. Get a portfolio together.

Would I make a general all purpose portfolio for the publication? or study the publication and observe what type of work they have mostly and make a portfolio specifically for them and their target audience?

Originally Posted by JFSanders

Chris, Try to get the book by John Harrington, Best business practices for the photographer. There is a wealth of information in there and he discusses what photo editors look for and how they prefer to receive submissions.

Now for the downside. Most publications pay dismally or less. You will get worked over like a two bit whore if you don't know how the game is played. The desire to see one's name published next to a image has created a massive flood of the image market. See, the post about how stock photography has committed suicide.

Now if you have some truly unique images that you believe will be attractive to the photo editor and you truly understand just what it is that you own and how to price the use of according to the principles of copyright, then it may be to your advantage to seek out this relationship. But understand that the photo editor has his known and befriended providers and go to photographers, otherwise he/she would not be the photo editor or higher up the food chain. So you will have to do your home work and put in the effort to break into the starting lineup.

Good luck and hope to see you be successful.

Jim

Thanks Jim (JFSanders) I will read up on that article reference you've suggested and book recommendation. But is there a book you recommend specifically on commercial advertising photography using models (model photography)?

Right now as I'm still in portfolio building stages in model photography I'm very willing to submit work without any compensation just to build a tear sheet model portfolio to gain more access to more models in my area that only willing to let me photograph them if I have been published into print.

EDIT just noticed two different Jims replied to me..

[andyw]

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

Would I make a general all purpose portfolio for the publication? or study the publication and observe what type of work they have mostly and make a portfolio specifically for them and their target audience?

NO NO NO.
It is all about research and knowing your markets.
You target your book to the particular publications market.
Pointless putting shots of cute kittens into portfolio to show to a publication spec_ialising in alternative fashion or the like.

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

Right now as I'm still in portfolio building stages in model photography I'm very willing to submit work without any compensation just to build a tear sheet model portfolio to gain more access to more models in my area that only willing to let me photograph them if I have been published into print.

EDIT just noticed two different Jims replied to me..

WHAT??? sorry but I am unsure here what you are trying to do here.
If you are trying to get a book together based on fashion/model shots to potentially work in that area, then there are many thousands of willing models "out there" who are looking for shots for their own books on tfp basis or who you can pay for their time you most certainly do not have to be published already. For tfp you have to be competent and produce work which the models could use.

DON'T submit work for nothing to publications.

Except for generic stock type of shots publications will not be interested in just random shots of models.

You need to explain more what exactly you are trying to do and you will get more helpful responses.


Bottom line though is whatever area you want to try and get published, you need to study the publications in that market and target your shots accordingly.

[Jim Bryant]

Originally Posted by ChrisAdval

Would I make a general all purpose portfolio for the publication? or study the publication and observe what type of work they have mostly and make a portfolio specifically for them and their target audience?



Thanks Jim (JFSanders) I will read up on that article reference you've suggested and book recommendation. But is there a book you recommend specifically on commercial advertising photography using models (model photography)?

Right now as I'm still in portfolio building stages in model photography I'm very willing to submit work without any compensation just to build a tear sheet model portfolio to gain more access to more models in my area that only willing to let me photograph them if I have been published into print.

EDIT just noticed two different Jims replied to me..

Study the style or photography used in the publications.

[ChrisAdval]

thanks guys that makes sense now.