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Old 08-02-2010, 02:48 PM
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I haven't done very little PP after the shooting, I was happy that I got better pics then they had previously. But I do believed that there is still a big margine for improvement & thats why I posted things here!

@LeeR, I do highly appreicate the instruction & the info! Did check your blog & will post a photo or two with full PP later.

@gturner, I bet he has...

@OsmosisStudios I do agree with you more about the wide angle thing, tho I sill to give the 100mm shots another try

@LeeR & @OsmosisStudios, I'm not still sure about the light pinkish gradiant, althought is it workin pretty well on this image, I'm not sure how the overall web page will look with 15 different colored items. I guess it will clutter the whole page. what about a light gray shade? I did use that on their old photos.

Thanks again & I'm really looking for some pricing guidence here too!!

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Old 08-02-2010, 03:23 PM
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As people mentioned, plain white bg, maybe one step darker than your subject and a simple bg, nothing crazy, it is too nervous. Also for everything that reflects much, you will have to change your set up to kill or better minimize reflection and this will likely need more then just a simple light tent otherwise people would only use big light-tents
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:38 PM
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As people mentioned, plain white bg, maybe one step darker than your subject and a simple bg, nothing crazy, it is too nervous. Also for everything that reflects much, you will have to change your set up to kill or better minimize reflection and this will likely need more then just a simple light tent otherwise people would only use big light-tents
Thank you for you comment Daisho.

Can you elaborate e a bit more abt the reflections? which ones? & what set up I might need to minimize / eliminate them?

I do think that the reflections I got in the photos are "OK", since I want to show which leather / item is reflective & which is not.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:33 PM
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As far as reflections goes, I marked out the obvious one for you... (hope that is okay) How you reduce those is up to you, your equipment and how crafty you can use it.

You have to pay close attention to the material and shape of your product. If you distribute the light wrong, you will take away from the features and quality of your product. For example you take a leather object with a texture, you don't want to light the object straight dead on because you kill the texture (no shadow = no texture) same goes for shapes. If you light everything equal this might make a semi first good look but your product will lose "LOOK" and this is what you are selling with a picture (since the customer can not feel, smell or in other cases taste the product). You have to set highlights and shades (to make texture) according to your product and a light-tent unfortunately does the job only so far because it gives you no control over the light except for how much you throw in there.
Now here comes the down point, you might, as most of us (and this unfortunately includes me), not have the means in terms of equipment. You might just have one on-camera flash and you can't even fire this one remote from another position. Here you have to become creative, take a trip to the local "do it you self" store by some stuff to shut out light or to bounce light of, to form and shape light.

Before you get scared or overwhelmed, here is the good news. Most customers don't know about those things either and thus don't ask for it and will be perfectly happy with 80% - 90% of your shots. And as my teacher said, those jobs are usually easy money, you do and never look back on....

Hope that kind of shades some light on the issue.

PS: Photography is all about light and how you direct it, took me some years to reach that point, now it only needs me to understand how to use this knowledge.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:20 PM
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As far as reflections goes, I marked out the obvious one for you... (hope that is okay) How you reduce those is up to you, your equipment and how crafty you can use it.

You have to pay close attention to the material and shape of your product. If you distribute the light wrong, you will take away from the features and quality of your product. For example you take a leather object with a texture, you don't want to light the object straight dead on because you kill the texture (no shadow = no texture) same goes for shapes. If you light everything equal this might make a semi first good look but your product will lose "LOOK" and this is what you are selling with a picture (since the customer can not feel, smell or in other cases taste the product). You have to set highlights and shades (to make texture) according to your product and a light-tent unfortunately does the job only so far because it gives you no control over the light except for how much you throw in there.
Now here comes the down point, you might, as most of us (and this unfortunately includes me), not have the means in terms of equipment. You might just have one on-camera flash and you can't even fire this one remote from another position. Here you have to become creative, take a trip to the local "do it you self" store by some stuff to shut out light or to bounce light of, to form and shape light.

Before you get scared or overwhelmed, here is the good news. Most customers don't know about those things either and thus don't ask for it and will be perfectly happy with 80% - 90% of your shots. And as my teacher said, those jobs are usually easy money, you do and never look back on....

Hope that kind of shades some light on the issue.

PS: Photography is all about light and how you direct it, took me some years to reach that point, now it only needs me to understand how to use this knowledge.
Thanks a lot Daisho for taking the time & commenting.

You have chosen the hardest item!! it was very reflective, semi transparent bag!! I did try a lot of ways to light it up so it shows as close as possible to the real item & if the item is placed in a room, it will look pretty close to this..... this turned out to be the best that I was able to get with my gear & compared with that they got... this was super!! with the gear I do have... I doubt I'll be able to improve it much!

I'll take your comments into consideration when I get the bags back for the final shout out!

Guys & Gals I'm still looking for a guide / info about pricing! shall I post it in the "Earning with Photography" forum??

thanks everyone for your valuable input!

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Old 10-20-2010, 04:13 AM
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I can not give an answer as to what exact price because I don't know myself, but I imagine a little more info might be needed.
What country do you live in? is it just these shots? or are there more?
Either way, whatever you decide, write up a usage contract for the images (one bit of info that keeps getting repeated on this forum over and over) that clearly states the usage and price of the images.

In a couple of the other threads about pricing people linked to websites that could help, perhaps have a search through them?
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