#1 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 02:16 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 15
Question How do you get all subject in focus?

Hi

I hope this is not a stupid question. I've been doing people and toy photography of late and I noticed my main mistake when taking group shots, one person tend to be in focus (sharp) whilst the rest are kinda blurred. I realised thereafter I was using the wrong aperture setting - e.g. f2.8 or f1.4

So now i'm trying to practice my photography on easier/still subject like toys .. however i don't seem to be getting it. I've moved my aperture to say f5.6 but I'm still getting one object/subject in focus.

Let me try and explain further with a picture (pls ignore the lighting for now):



My focus point was on the right toy (danbo) so it's quite obvious that the left toy was not very sharp. I couldn't use centre point focus because my camera just wont focus on a blank area.

Uhm, what am i doing wrong?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 02:26 PM
kirbinster's Avatar
Always carry your camera
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,635
Default

Well you don't say what camera or lens you were using or how far from the subject you were so it is hard to be very specific, but... basically it is a depth of field issue. Take a look at some of the many online depth of field calculators. What you do is enter your camera model, lenght of the lens (or the setting for the shot if a zoom lens in mm), the f/stop and the distance to the subject. It will then tell you how far infront or behind that point will still be in focus.

My assumption here is that your depth of field is just too shallow, I also think you may be having some camera movement as it does not look like anything is super sharp on my screen.
__________________
Nikon D700, D300, D5000, NIKON GLASS 85mm F/1.8 D, 105mm f/2.8 Micro AF-S VR, 70-200 AF-S VR f/2.8, 28-300 AF-S VRII,10.5mm Fisheye, 24-70 AF-S f/2.8, TC-20E II AF-S, Sigma 12-24 HSM, Sigma 30mm f/1.4 HSM, Sigma 150-500 OS, 2 SB-600 Speedlights, Manfrotto 190MF3 tripod & 322RC2 ball grip head. - NJ, USA
Flickr Photobucket
Ok to edit and repost my shots on DPS forums
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 02:30 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 15
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbinster View Post
Well you don't say what camera or lens you were using or how far from the subject you were so it is hard to be very specific, but... basically it is a depth of field issue. Take a look at some of the many online depth of field calculators. What you do is enter your camera model, lenght of the lens (or the setting for the shot if a zoom lens in mm), the f/stop and the distance to the subject. It will then tell you how far infront or behind that point will still be in focus.

My assumption here is that your depth of field is just too shallow, I also think you may be having some camera movement as it does not look like anything is super sharp on my screen.
Whoops sorry. I'm using 5DMKII with a 24-70 f2.8 lens. For the picture above, the focal length was 67mm. Also the camera was mounted on a tripod but i didn't use the remote trigger.

Thanks for the tip on the DOF calculator, i'll check it out.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 09:14 PM
dPS +1000 Club
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,054
Default

Also keep in mind that as your subject gets closer and closer, a given aperture will give you a thinner and thinner dof.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 09:53 PM
kirbinster's Avatar
Always carry your camera
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,635
Default

...and adding to that as you use a longer and longer lens for the same Image capture (you move further away) you get a shallower depth of field.
__________________
Nikon D700, D300, D5000, NIKON GLASS 85mm F/1.8 D, 105mm f/2.8 Micro AF-S VR, 70-200 AF-S VR f/2.8, 28-300 AF-S VRII,10.5mm Fisheye, 24-70 AF-S f/2.8, TC-20E II AF-S, Sigma 12-24 HSM, Sigma 30mm f/1.4 HSM, Sigma 150-500 OS, 2 SB-600 Speedlights, Manfrotto 190MF3 tripod & 322RC2 ball grip head. - NJ, USA
Flickr Photobucket
Ok to edit and repost my shots on DPS forums
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 11:05 PM
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 298
Default

Any tips on determining exactly what focal length you are using and how to know exactly what distance you are focusing at? I've experimented with hyperfocal distance a little bit, but most of the landscape shooting I have done has been on a tight schedule, so I just follow the focus a third into the scene.

As for the hyperfocal distance, you can tell what focal length you are using if you happen to be right on a marked one, but what about when in between? Same thing for focusing.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-16-2011, 05:53 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1
Default

I think that the 5D should have a depth of field preview button somewhere on it. Press this and the lens shuts down to the chosen aperture and you get an idea of what is in and out of focus.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-16-2011, 07:24 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 36
Default

From what I understand the depth of focus comes from higher aperatures. Try using 16 and see what happens.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-16-2011, 08:36 PM
dPS +1000 Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 4,581
Default

Two things.

If I am shooting at near minimum focussing distances I woul be think F11-F22 for enough DOF (unless I particularly wanted shallow DOF)

Re focussing.

If the camera has trouble focussing, for what ever reason, use manual focus.
__________________
Flickr stream.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34094515@N00/

500pics stream
http://500px.com/Richard_Taylor
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2011, 10:13 PM
I'm new here!
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1
Default Getting 30 people in sharp

I am taking a large family shot and want all is sharp focus i have a canon rebel . I will us the 55 length. It will be a sunny day so I won't need my flash . Do I shoot at f2.8 f22. Thanks
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

What’s Your Preference?

Daily Digest

Each day we send out a quick email to thousands of DPS readers to notify them of updates. This email is just short excerpt of the first few lines of our latest post with a link if you want to read it all. You can unsubscribe from this this service at any time.

This service is provided by a third party (Feedburner) and you can subscribe to it by leaving your email address in the following field and confirming your subscription when you get an email asking you to do so.

Enter your email address for
Daily Updates:

Weekly Summary

For those wanting a weekly summary of what happens on this site this free email newsletter is probably your best option. It includes a summary of the tips posted to the site each week. This newsletter is subscribed to by over 25000 readers (many who also subscribe to the other options above) - come join the community!

To subscribe to this weekly newsletter simply add your email address to the following field and then follow the confirmation prompts. You will be able to unsubscribe at any time.

Enter your email address for
Free Weekly Newsletter:

 
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0