Ups and Downs

[RedGoblinz]

Im an enthusiast photographer and have been onto photography for 3 months .
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An album for my best photos, the first few arent very impressive, just an idea of what i should with the Casio EX-Z750, but maybe im just limited by it, because its ISO performance is terrible.

I have thought about getting a 1100D as my first dslr, but then stumbled upon D90, which was a little more expensive for the 2nd lcd (not sure if i need it) and pentaprism, compared to Canon's 60D which was much more expensive.

I like the way Canon's dials work, havent tried it before though, maybe for future use, i dont really know how Nikons work.
I thought of wanting a 2nd lcd because i think that the main LCD may suck most of its battery, and even though im better with closing my right eye only, i try to close my left eye instead, which leads to tire-ness after some time. So i maybe cant view through the Viewfinder to check settings all the time. Im a specs wearer too.

Here are the ups and downs i've covered so far:

D90
Advantages
- Pentaprism (I dont think it matters much to me
- 2nd LCD (Im not sure if i need it)
- Faster burst speed (doesnt really matter, i dont take sports.)
- Wireless flash control (for future money saving, i think.)
- 2 Dials

Disadvantages
- I have to wait at least 5 months to save up the extra compared to 1100D, im only 14 so i save on a monthly basis.
- Pay atleast RM800 (my currency) or $270 that can be used for lenses.

1100D
Advantages
- I wouldn't have to wait so long
- Save the money for lenses
- Prefer the way the dials work on higher-end Canon dslr's

Disadvantages
-Entry-level dslr (don't mind, i AM just starting off)
- Pentamirror (Same as above)
- 1 LCD only. (Worried it'll drain battery for no good reason
- 1 Dial (Not very concerned)

Or i should just save even more and get the 1000D, even the 1000D has a self cleaning sensor. All of Canon EOS 60D's predecessor's buttons under the screen are something im not very fond of.

Im here to ask you guys for suggestions or you can point out what other ups and downs that i should consider, either about the 2 Systems or just the dslr itself.

[Izzy]

I have a 1000D, it is great on the battery life by default it is set to turn off the LCD within 4-6 seconds I think. Anyway there is that battery saver feature there. I am sure the other cameras have it too. I am also a glasses shooter. By adjusting the diopter (viewfinder) you can set it so you dont have to peer through your glasses when looking through the viewfinder. If you intend to shoot these cameras in "live view" mode the will suck batteries no matter which one you by. Live View is when you set the camera to show the image on the LCD rather than through the view finder. I personally never use my cameras this way.

1000D is a great starter dslr. As for ISO performance I will say that above 800 is unusable. Some may claim unusable at a lower ISO. You will only find this a problem if you are shooting in low light without a tripod. Might I suggest if you are going the way of Canon (coming to the dark side) you get a 50mm 1.8. It is a cheap lens at about $100 and very fast optically. This will help you overcome the ISO shortfall.

[inkista]

You might want to look at the 600D. It's the camera that's in between the 1100D and the 60D.

If you want to know the Nikon and Canon model tiers and generations, I recommend these two tables:

Template:Canon DSLR cameras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Template:Nikon DSLR cameras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Sloseph]

Originally Posted by Izzy

I have a 1000D, it is great on the battery life by default it is set to turn off the LCD within 4-6 seconds I think. Anyway there is that battery saver feature there. I am sure the other cameras have it too. I am also a glasses shooter. By adjusting the diopter (viewfinder) you can set it so you dont have to peer through your glasses when looking through the viewfinder. If you intend to shoot these cameras in "live view" mode the will suck batteries no matter which one you by. Live View is when you set the camera to show the image on the LCD rather than through the view finder. I personally never use my cameras this way.

1000D is a great starter dslr. As for ISO performance I will say that above 800 is unusable. Some may claim unusable at a lower ISO. You will only find this a problem if you are shooting in low light without a tripod. Might I suggest if you are going the way of Canon (coming to the dark side) you get a 50mm 1.8. It is a cheap lens at about $100 and very fast optically. This will help you overcome the ISO shortfall.

pretty much what i was going to say

its a great little camera, not too heavy and not too expensive, the noise is a bit troublesome past iso 800 but can be delt with in PP

im more than happy to recomend it to anyone iv had mine for nearly 3 years and dont regret my choice at all

[RedGoblinz]

Originally Posted by Izzy

I have a 1000D, it is great on the battery life by default it is set to turn off the LCD within 4-6 seconds I think. Anyway there is that battery saver feature there. I am sure the other cameras have it too. I am also a glasses shooter. By adjusting the diopter (viewfinder) you can set it so you dont have to peer through your glasses when looking through the viewfinder. If you intend to shoot these cameras in "live view" mode the will suck batteries no matter which one you by. Live View is when you set the camera to show the image on the LCD rather than through the view finder. I personally never use my cameras this way.

1000D is a great starter dslr. As for ISO performance I will say that above 800 is unusable. Some may claim unusable at a lower ISO. You will only find this a problem if you are shooting in low light without a tripod. Might I suggest if you are going the way of Canon (coming to the dark side) you get a 50mm 1.8. It is a cheap lens at about $100 and very fast optically. This will help you overcome the ISO shortfall.

Well. Thanks for your suggestion, but im just curious i might grow out of it or some sort.
And as for the 50mm, is it a little tight for indoors?
Are you talking about JPEG ISO 800 or RAW?

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by RedGoblinz

Well. Thanks for your suggestion, but im just curious i might grow out of it or some sort.
And as for the 50mm, is it a little tight for indoors?
Are you talking about JPEG ISO 800 or RAW?

The ISO noise is in all modes just like it is with any camera. Some claim that it is easier to deal with in RAW form I say BS. Fact is that all of the cameras in your price bracket are going to have this "noise".

50mm can be a bit tight indoors until you get used to it.

As for growing out of it - bodies mean squat. It is the lenses that stay with you. Meaning you will most likely kill a body long before you kill any lens you might have. This is the very reason that people say buy the best you can in glass as it will stay with you. The only time this growing will be an issue is if you get into things like the 5D which are full frame and the crop frame glass wont work on it. These are the ef-s lenses (crop body).

[Sloseph]

Originally Posted by RedGoblinz

Well. Thanks for your suggestion, but im just curious i might grow out of it or some sort.
And as for the 50mm, is it a little tight for indoors?
Are you talking about JPEG ISO 800 or RAW?

you probably will grow out of it at some point but that point is going to be a really long time away

like i said iv had mine for about 3 years and the only time it has ever even slightly let me down is when i did some gig photography and had to bump up the ISO to the max because i didn't have a fast lense and i got a lot of noise

[RedGoblinz]

Well, wish me luck, most probably buying a 2nd hand 1000D .

[Sloseph]

best of luck to you, come back in a bit and let us know how you got on