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Default Flash Recommendations - Canon Speedlite 430EX II?

I shoot with a Canon 5D Mark II, mainly portraits. And I am looking to buy my first flash for night time photography. I want something that will bounce light, to avoid a straight on flash appearance. What would you suggest? The Canon Speedlite 430EX II?

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Go for the 580EX II. You won't be disappointed. It's bright as hell (when you need it to be) and does just about everything and anything you want/need a speedlite to do.
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Go for the 580EX II. You won't be disappointed. It's bright as hell (when you need it to be) and does just about everything and anything you want/need a speedlite to do.
^agreed

I love mine.
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If you can afford it, you'll face less frustration starting out with a 580EXII and then adding a 430EXII than you would the other way around. If you can't afford the 580EXII, take a look and see if you can find a used 580EX.

The main reason you want to go upscale if you're bouncing with on-camera flash is because the 580s are more powerful than the 430s, and they do a full 360° swivel: the head rotates 180° to both the right and the left. The 430x will do 180° to the left, but only 90° to the right (from behind the camera). You've already lost 25% of your directional choices for the light if you use the lower-end flash.
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Agreed with all previous posters. I was going to get the 430, but held out till I could afford the 580EX II. I am SO glad I did!
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I appreciate all the responses. Price is a concern...

I was able to find a used 580EX Speedlite E-TTL II Shoe Mount Flash, and a used Speedlight 580EX II. Which would you recommend? I can't seem to figure out how the E-TTL Shoe Mount differs... Again, I am using a Canon 5D Mark II.

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The II on the end of the first one indicates to me that they're the same thing.

Here are the Mark I and Mark II side-by-side (courtesy of the-digital-picture.com)



The MkII has the fast-lock switch, rather than the screwlock of the MkI, and the MkI has the external Off/Master/Slave switch, while the MkII uses menus to select that function.

Of the two, you want the MkII, because it's newer and has more features (most notably a PC sync port, autothyristor, and weather sealing--if you want the full laundry list of differences, click on that picture above, and it'll take you to a 580EXII review on the-digital-picture.com). But the MkI is likely to be cheaper by about $100 on the used market.
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Thank you for the details! One last question, and I apologize because this might be a dumb one. What is a shoe mount? I have tried googling it, and can't find a clear explanation.
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Ok. Just kidding.

"Shoe mount" just means that the flash uses a hotshoe connector to mount onto the camera.
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Ok. Just kidding.

"Shoe mount" just means that the flash uses a hotshoe connector to mount onto the camera.
Brilliant! LOL that totally cracked me up!

Funny though, cuz every time I say the word "hotshoe" I picture a sneaker in flames.
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