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wulf and wood re the nudes.....

i retained explicit permission to use the nudes on this forum....i just hesitated for my own dignity as i did not think i did all that well....i mean the nudes are nice....but the focus kept throwing me....especially, as i said before....when the model and the horse's head were in the same frame but meters apart in focus.....

when i work up the nerve, i will ask nature's pixel for a password....then you guys can tear me apart on what to do next time...

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:32 AM
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I like it!
Shows a nice relationship between the 2.
Nice lighting and well composed!
dennis, thank you for your kind encouragement....

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when i work up the nerve, i will ask nature's pixel for a password....then you guys can tear me apart on what to do next time...

thanks again

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Aww peeper we're not that bad. It is all for the sake of becoming better photographers. Like my mom always tells me "If we didnt care about you we would not critique you" usually she tells me this when she is nagging at me about something.....
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oh shoot, rex....it was just a figure of speech.....

it's just that i truly want all the feedback i can get....her friends were with her helping us both....and i got petitioned for a few more portraits.....i want to be the best that i can be so that i won't fret too much asking a fair price....

what you and others give me here are the tools to do more....better....and for that i can't thank you enough.....

thank you....really....thank you....

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Peeper,
This is an excellent shot. Great DOF and I like the way the horse frames the subject. I'm no expert on portraits, but I give you two thumbs up!

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peeperita,

To the list, add "more Sun" and "different background" under "Things that might help." It appears most of the light was over your left shoulder or nearly even with your position. Just a tiny bit seems to filter through (below horse's right ear), and colors and lighting might have been given more dimension with some more Sun. Early or late will nearly eliminate the "blow-out" factor). The background is not adding enough to be that obvious.

Most of all, I would suggest horses and people both look better seen in 3/4 or profile, not fully frontal. Having model standing in front of and looking towards horse, while horse is turned facing into frame, would be a double portrait with just the front legs of horse. And perhaps backlit, giving a suggestion of the "Lady Godiva" theme through a sheer costume? Hmmmm . . .
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This is an excellent shot. Great DOF and I like the way the horse frames the subject. I'm no expert on portraits, but I give you two thumbs up!

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thanks you todd....i'm a fan of two thumbs up!

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To the list, add "more Sun" and "different background" under "Things that might help." It appears most of the light was over your left shoulder or nearly even with your position. Just a tiny bit seems to filter through (below horse's right ear), and colors and lighting might have been given more dimension with some more Sun. Early or late will nearly eliminate the "blow-out" factor). The background is not adding enough to be that obvious.

Most of all, I would suggest horses and people both look better seen in 3/4 or profile, not fully frontal. Having model standing in front of and looking towards horse, while horse is turned facing into frame, would be a double portrait with just the front legs of horse. And perhaps backlit, giving a suggestion of the "Lady Godiva" theme through a sheer costume? Hmmmm . . .

thanks for taking the time to critique this shot, jiminy.....yours is an opinion that i value greatly.....

we began almost too late in the day....this shot was taken a little less than an hour before sunset in the deep wood....and the horse was not cooperating as well as my model would have liked....her girlfriend is just off frame in almost every shot cooing to him to behave....he twisted and turned almost constantly which made posing quite difficult....(you should see the stack of outtakes!)

that outfit was great, wasn't it?.....when i first saw what she chose to wear i didn't like all the patterning and i was grateful that i had brought extra garb....i shot her in several gowns but, this one ended up appealing to me the most.....

i have yet to present this woman with her portraits because i wanted the feedback that you and others so generously provide.....these critiques will enable me to go back through my editing and choose a better path as it relates to cropping, background and lighting......

thank you again, dear man....

peeper

ps....if you have the time and the inclination to do so.....there's another shot on my flickr of them further away that has a sort of "rembrandt" lighting that i like...(although the focus was more than a challenge)...
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peeperita,

Usually I run short of time, and going to Flickr is a luxury I can't indulge. I should plan better so I can do it more often. 5789 is a more intimate view and illustrates the facing-inward quality well. 5801 is epic, like a Joan of Arc portrait. Better light quality, horse position dramatic (by comparison), background adds to it. Did your client like 5801?
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I think you did a nice job with the one you have shown us. As far as depth of field, you have a couple of options, not that any would have worked so well here with only onboard flash. As you get farther away, depth of field will increase for the same f/stop. Then you have to rely on the camera's ability to capture the shot with enough megapixels to crop the image you desire. Next, stopping the lens down and slowing the shutter speed will balance the ambient light but will also decrease the effect of the flash. The way to work it would be to see how close you would need to be for the chosen f/stop to work for depth of field and flash, then balance available light for that aperture with slowing the shutter speed. Not as easy a task in outdoor lighting. Fortunately the horse was light in tone so that would have helped, even if he came out a ittle darker. You need to put a more powerful battery powered flash on your Christmas wish list. 8-)
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