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Nice sharpness and great shadow detail without having the white wall and highlights blown out. This could almost work better as a vertical crop as the right hand side of the photo beyond the sign is the making of a separate picture. The orange bike commands your attention so one really doesn't get farther in to the window , door and lamp farther down the walk. Any post processing here? Good shot.
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Hi tufcat,

Thanks for sharing this shot. It really tells a story and you've composed it well. The bike is a great addition.

The only thing I'd suggest is to consider the shadows. While shadows can be quite effective, in this case I find myself distracted by the 'break' or line between the shaded areas and the lit areas. Perhaps you could shoot the scene fully illuminated (if that's even possible), or try a time during the day when the shadow is in a more favorable position. Experimenting is always fun! In any case, I gather you want the viewer to see the 'big picture'...the whole scene with all its creative components...and the shading seems to break it up and/or distract.

Nice job overall and thanks again for sharing!
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Nice sharpness and great shadow detail without having the white wall and highlights blown out. This could almost work better as a vertical crop as the right hand side of the photo beyond the sign is the making of a separate picture. The orange bike commands your attention so one really doesn't get farther in to the window , door and lamp farther down the walk. Any post processing here? Good shot.
The vertical crop works well on this shot. It does help direct the viewer's focus. Good suggestion, thanx.
I kind of like the tighter crop.

I did a little post processing...
[1] I boosted the yellow color saturation on the bicycle.
[2] I boosted the red saturation on the signs.
[3] I darkened wood areas (including the roof).



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Hi tufcat,

Thanks for sharing this shot. It really tells a story and you've composed it well. The bike is a great addition.

The only thing I'd suggest is to consider the shadows. While shadows can be quite effective, in this case I find myself distracted by the 'break' or line between the shaded areas and the lit areas. Perhaps you could shoot the scene fully illuminated (if that's even possible), or try a time during the day when the shadow is in a more favorable position. Experimenting is always fun! In any case, I gather you want the viewer to see the 'big picture'...the whole scene with all its creative components...and the shading seems to break it up and/or distract.

Nice job overall and thanks again for sharing!
Yeah, "the shadow". I noticed that when I printed a copy (didn't even see it when I took the picture). Even so, I would have had to pack it in and come back the next day for a mid-day shot, in order to eleminate the shadow. Unfortunately, that wasn't really an option (even if I had thought about it).

We had been on a long walk that day. I was traveling light with only my camera and 17-50mm lens (I had left most of my photo gear in the truck). If I had noticed the shadow when taking the picture (which I didn't) and had I had been prepared by having my speedlight with me (which was back in the truck) I may have been able to lessen the shadow effect with some fill flash.

Another thing... This quaint little taberna is smack dab in the middle of a heavy tourist area. It took a bit timing just to get the shot without a group of passing tourist becoming a part of the picture. I was too busy focusing on what I didn't want in the picture, and not busy enought focusing on what I was actually shooting. I would have still taken the picture, but I may have (atleast) turned on the camera's flash.

I guess these are the types of things that seperate me from the real pros in the business. But I still really like the shot.
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I prefer the wider of the two crops - it seems to give a bit more room to breath. I think that is partly because the implied diagonal line running through the front forks on the bike and the tavern sign has equal space to the left and right where it would cross the top and bottom of the frame; in the tighter crop, the same line is squeezed in the top right.

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I guess these are the types of things that seperate me from the real pros in the business. But I still really like the shot.
I'm glad you really like the shot...that's what counts! (and for the record, I like it too!)

Regarding my comment on your 'shadow': that seems to be a case of "hindsight is 20/20"...I likely would have done the same...focus on getting a shot without the tourists and not pay attention to every other little detail. But isn't it great practice for all of us learning what we can think about for 'next time'?? That's why I love DPS. Thanks again for posting your shot.
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the first shot is the one! great shot too.....I like the shadows against the white walls and the orange bike really juts out at you....great shot in my opinion.
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My two cents: the colors are really nice - I like the bright white walls against the solid primary/secondary colors.

Have you tried just cropping off everthing to the right of the sign? Holding my hand over my screen, I think that makes for a more interesting composition. It leaves the bike pointing towards more space on the left, rather than dead center.

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My two cents: the colors are really nice - I like the bright white walls against the solid primary/secondary colors.

Have you tried just cropping off everthing to the right of the sign? Holding my hand over my screen, I think that makes for a more interesting composition. It leaves the bike pointing towards more space on the left, rather than dead center.

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Well, that's a pretty good idea too.

I print quite a few pictures, so I tend to approach the cropping of photos from a print medium / (standard) frame size perspective.

There are a lot of good perspectives and feedback in this thread, and throughout this forum. I think this type of discussion broadens horizons and makes all of us better photographers.

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