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The picture of the robin was taken mid-morning on Boxing Day (Dec 26th '07) whilst talking a walk with my fiancee and mother-in-law.



The image (as with all of my images at this stage) hasn't had any post-processing applied to it - I wouldn't know where to start.

I am very keen on nature, landscapes and close-ups and was really here, just starting off with a close up of nature I was proud of. Don't shoot me but I think I was most probably on the 'AUTO' setting and I think I payed the price - the pic looks as part of the branch beofre was the focus lock rather than Mr Robin redbreast himself.

Any pointers/suggestions would be great.

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Old 01-20-2008, 09:48 AM
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rich_uk, Welcome

Everyone starts about like that, see what the camera knows, center a subject, get focus slightly off. With the feathers, it's not obvious, but you noticed it. Good eye.

Moving around is not always possible, so b/g is whatever you get; if you had been able to show Mr.Robin against a darker less cluttered area, better.

Thanks for DPS description, it is good to hear that.
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You could try cropping to a portrait format, loosing the bright blue strip of background down the left and some of the space to the right. The background will still be a bit bright and cluttered but with just that alteration, you will have simplified it a lot and also made the robin relatively larger in the frame.

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Thanks jiminyClickit for your feedback and to you wulf.

I did try many times to crop to portrait but every time I did (and in trying to constrain proportions) I was finding that mr robin's sides were either a) too close to the sides or b) I was getting too much of the lower left thin stick in the bottom of the shot beneath the main branch he's perched on.

So, and I feel a bit 'naughty' going against your advice, but see what you think of the result with a landscape crop, quite well centered and still keeping out the left and right bright blue and white edges.

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I appreciate the thread here - I'm one of those untrained folks who just crops by eye. I noticed the background seemed busy, but hadn't noted those bright bands as particularly troublesome - that comment helped.

I really like the tight crop: it's almost like a personal introduction to Mr. Robin. As the background really isn't interesting or informative, it doesn't matter that it's lost.
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:13 AM
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What you call a "robin" is significantly different than a "robin" where I am.....

2008.01.12  Robin  DSCF1120

(not a good photo. Only to show what a robin is to me)
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So, and I feel a bit 'naughty' going against your advice
It is your photo and your decision and the result does work well. If I had cropped I would have lost a part of the robin's tail; if you look at a lot of portraits you will see that it is not an inviolate rule that the whole subject must be contained within the frame. However, your choice is also good.

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.. If I had cropped I would have lost a part of the robin's tail; if you look at a lot of portraits you will see that it is not an inviolate rule that the whole subject must be contained within the frame. However, your choice is also good.

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Wulf, thanks very much for the heads-up with regards to framing, that's good to know and I'm also very pleased that you liked my final choice.

Great!

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