I'm Having K10D Envy!

[psykon99]

Oh, I'm so having K10D envy. I'm using an XTi right now - which is a great camera - but that weather sealing sounds OH SO appealing! I like to shoot out in the inclement weather, but I hate using rain sleeves. Problem is, I'm too scared to get the camera out to take the shot without the sleeve. PLUS, there are other features I like on the K10D too!

I'm thinking I need to shoot w/ two systems: Canon AND Pentax. Anyone feel like contributing to my K10D fund? :-)

That'll do me for awhile: XTi and K10D. Then I'll add Leica into the mix...

[jdepould]

What's wrong with the 40D?

[psykon99]

What's wrong with the 40D?

1. I was under the impression that it's not weather sealed.

2. It's twice the price.

[Saralonde]

I own a Canon, but I envy things about the Nikon, Pentax, etc. systems. I don't know if there is one perfect one. Rather than buy different systems, I think I would use the money to upgrade what I have or buy more glass.

I'm not sure I would trust weather sealing that much anyway. Maybe in a light drizzle, but I'd still want to protect my camera "just in case". You could always get one of these for piece of mind (http://www.stormjacket.com/), or even cheaper, use a plastic bag.

[mattdm]

There's videos of people running their K10Ds under faucets with no harm. I'm not sure I'd do that, but I wouldn't worry about rain -- with one caveat: to date, the only weather-sealed lenses are the $750/$900 DA* zoom lenses.

Hopefully they'll eventually come out with a weather-sealed normal prime, but until then, there's a pretty serious weak spot.

[psykon99]

Eh, I don't think I'd really start to invest in two systems. It's just the envious part of me talking. It's the light rain and snow that I'd like to shoot in. I use something similiar to a storm jacket right now, but it's anoying to use.

I do plan on buying a Leica M8 one day (or whatever version is out at the time I have the $7,000 necessary to buy the body and lens), but that's kinda apples and oranges.

[jdepould]

40D has weather sealing, anecdotal evidence suggests it isn't as good as the D200/300, but I've had my D50 out in some pretty nasty weather without any ill effects.

edit: if you're going to spend $7k just get a 1D and be done with it.

[zxccxzasd]

1. Sell the cannon and buy the K10D
2. Weather-tight means a lot more than no moisture - it means no dust infiltration. Anti-shake means more than a couple of stops gain, it also means dust shake at power on. You will save a LOT in sensor cleaning!

[jdepould]

1. Sell the cannon and buy the K10D
2. Weather-tight means a lot more than no moisture - it means no dust infiltration. Anti-shake means more than a couple of stops gain, it also means dust shake at power on. You will save a LOT in sensor cleaning!

Anti-shake and cleaning have nothing to do with each other. Besides, the 400D and 40D both have it.

Body stabilization only gives you a couple of stops, lens stabilization is more effective. If you change lenses at all dust will get into the body.

[Major_Small]

Anti-shake and cleaning have nothing to do with each other.Well, the K10D uses it's anti-shake system to clean the lens, but just because a camera has in-body anti-shake doesn't mean it can use that system for cleaning the sensor.

Everything else was right though. All the new EOS cameras (including the 40D and XTi) have the ability to ultrasonically clean their sensors, and just because the body is weather sealed and won't let particulate in, unless you change your lenses in a clean room, I guarantee you'll get dust in there sooner or later.

So now you're back to the weather-sealing being the only advantage. I don't think weather sealing is a huge deal, but I'm with Saralonde... I wouldn't trust any sealing, unless it was waterproof to like 10k feet or something crazy like that.

[inkista]

Funny, more than the weather-sealing, I've always been envious of the dedicated RAW button; the ability to shoot with Sensitivy(ISO)-priority and Aperture/Shutter [i.e., set aperture & shutter and the camera slides the ISO around for auto exposure]; and those cool pancake lenses.

But I like to shoot birds in flight, so no Pentax for me. :)

[jdepould]

Shooting manual with auto-ISO will give you that second option.

[inkista]

Shooting manual with auto-ISO will give you that second option.

The Canon XT doesn't have auto ISO.

Then again, auto ISO isn't a feature I lust after that much. I remember when you were limited to a single ISO setting because the film you were using determined the ISO, and you just left it there for the whole roll. Just being able to switch it from frame to frame is enough to make me grateful. :)

[geotography]

Psykon 99,

What did you finally decide on relative to the K10d? In case you are still working on this purchase, the weather sealing was a nice selling point for me; however, I still try to take care of it in the weather. I carry a special cloth dedicated to the camera body and immediately wipe it if it gets a bit of drizzle. You know, the lenses are not sealed the same way.

[GEli]

Psykon 99,

What did you finally decide on relative to the K10d? In case you are still working on this purchase, the weather sealing was a nice selling point for me; however, I still try to take care of it in the weather. I carry a special cloth dedicated to the camera body and immediately wipe it if it gets a bit of drizzle. You know, the lenses are not sealed the same way.

I can't determine from your post whether you know this or not, so I'm posting it anyways: If your sig is accurate, you don't currently own any lenses that are weather sealed. In inclement weather, the seal between the lens and the body of your camera is not weather proof and terrible things may happen if you get it wet. The weather sealing applies only to DA* glass, which has the rubber gasket/etc. on the mount that keeps water out. If you do want to shoot in bad weather with those lenses, get a body cover or at least wrap a plastic bag around your lens - wet sensors are sad sensors!

[psykon99]

I'm not really going to be buying a K10D. I just have a bit of envy over the weather sealant at this price bracket.

[mattdm]

I'm not really going to be buying a K10D. I just have a bit of envy over the weather sealant at this price bracket.

FWIW, the K200D will be introduced at about the same price bracket (and probably come down from there some) and is also weather-sealed.

[geotography]

GEli,

Thanks for your information. I did know a little about that; but thanks to you reply, I know more about that critical issue.