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Originally Posted by GEli

If someone doesn't know how metering modes work or has no idea how to push/pull EV in camera (so lack basic camera operation skills), their results are going to be crap even after PP. People who don't know how to photograph will make terrible photographs regardless of whether they shoot in RAW or JPEG. RAW is not a magical cure for poor fundamentals, it just allows for a slightly wider margin of error for passable photographers shooting in strenuous conditions. Until you can pull an image 4 stops up or recover detail from very blown whites, and still get something printable, I don't think what you're suggesting RAW can do is possible.

You like being argumentative, don't you? Ok, so I'll bite.

Where have I suggested ANYTHING about the possibilities of RAW that makes you say what you said (see bolded statement above)? Here, I'll make it easier on you and quote what I said and you tell me what's being suggested that you don't think is possible...

While I do shoot in RAW about half the time, I fear that many are using RAW as a crutch. Instead of taking the time to get it right the first time, they just shoot and correct later. While I do appreciate all the benefits RAW gives me in the post-processing stage, I've learned that getting it right from the get go is a lot easier than trying to color correct 500 images.

However with that said, I'll still shoot the very important stuff in RAW *just in case*.

Again, I'm not arguing against the benefits of RAW in the least so I'm not sure where you are going with your comments. All I'm saying is that for some, I fear that instead of learning how to treat photography as a skilled art form, they are relying too much on the post processing stage. There's still a lot of value in learning what metering modes to select, how to properly white balance on camera, how to compose, how and when to push or pull EV, etc.

So while, yes, the digital post processing stage is much like the darkroom, that doesn't mean that "old school" photographers should care less about the fundamentals of photography just because they can correct it in the darkroom.

I'm not trying to say that everyone who shoots RAW doesn't care about the fundamentals. I'm talking about the ones who don't know how the metering modes work on their cameras or how to push or pull their EV and solely rely on post processing.

Again, I'm not arguing against using RAW. I'm not arguing against post-processing. I'm not arguing against the capabilities of RAW. I'm not arguing against you. Why do you feel the need to make up arguments?