Hi All
I am also new to the group and have been breeding Himalayan show cats for 13 years now ! That said, I have my fair share of battle scars but I can guarantee that no cat will respond to you nicely after having its' head put under water or worse, being mutilated by declawing. Cats require patience, if the moment is not there, there will always be another one so I 100% agree with Jesta on this one. I joined this group to improve my shots for my website so am looking forward to many pet photos for me to study.
This group sounds like they have a great sense of humour which is wonderful to see

Bonnie
Shaded Tails Himalayans