Doublemint – Two Different Takes on the Same Green Scene
I really really REALLY love the editing process. I didn’t think there was any way I could love anything as much as I love actually taking photographs, by alas, editing has captured my heart.
Isn’t it funny how there are whole worlds out there which we know nothing about? I have seen so many photographers out there who take excellent shots and I just can’t believe they haven’t put any effort into going the extra mile to make a great shot outstanding.
Of course, this is all just a matter of perspective as is any facet of the art world. I know there is a whole camp who say editing is evil and fair enough as far too many young ‘photographers’ don’t seem to think that mastering the art of actually capturing a photograph is of any importance since there is software to correct just about every mistake you can dream of making.
I’m not by any means saying that I am an expert in either situation but I am willing to stick my neck out there and say that personally, I think I’m pretty good and have come a long way extremely fast. Not to be funny or anything (Darren’s not paying me to say this!) I learned half of everything I know about photography and editing from this website! If you haven’t taken the hours necessary to just sit and soak up all of the information available on this site (for FREE, people!) then you are missing out on a potentially huge benefit to your photographic knowledge.
When you jump into the sea which is editing and begin scanning the ocean floor for pearls, it’s hard to come up for air. My oxygen tank is very big you might say! Imagine my level of excitement when I learned about layers! I know, I know this might seem painfully simple for some of you but for others who are just beginning their journey, you may have only just discovered this pearl as did I only a few months ago.
Last week, I went away with my family for a weekend in the countryside here in England. For an American city girl, the countryside here is far beyond anything I ever dreamed that I would live in (not to mention the castles in my own back yard!) so I jumped out of bed at 5am and snuck out to catch the sunrise. It was my first time ever photographing the sunrise since for the past 6 years, I have only been up before the sun to make bottles or change diapers! Here are two photos I ended up with which, to my surprise, look completely different thanks to the editing processes I have developed for myself.
{IMAGE 1}


Every time I look at this photo, I instinctively squint because the light is so bright and I hear my mom in my head saying, “Don’t look at the sun - you’ll go blind!”
1.} In Lightroom, I created about 5 copies of this photo before I began applying presets (right click and choose ‘create virtual copy’).
2.} To #1, I applied Rebecca Lily’s ‘Fresh Perspective’ preset. On 2, I used ‘Creme Retro’.
3.} In Photoshop, I layered the two images and blended using the ‘overlay’ mode. To layer, you literally drag one photo on top of the other and then resize it so they match. Then in the layers palette on the right, select from the drop down menu ‘overlay’. In the palette is a sliding bar to change the opacity which is basically just making the front image more ’see through’ which will change the impact of the effect. There are many different modes here you could choose for a different effect. In the layers palette, right click on the background image and choose ‘make layer from background’. This takes your fixed background image and turns it into a layer so you can then change the order of your layers to decide which of the two images you want in the front.
4.} Although there is naturally a beautiful sunburst and flare from the sun shining through the trees, I just wanted to bump it up a tiny bit. On the top menu, choose ‘filter’ —> ‘render’ —> ‘lens flare’. Here, you can choose from a few different effects which naturally occur depending on the lens used and then you can change the brightness and, most importantly, the position of the burst. I clicked exactly in the middle of the natural sun burst and changed the brightness just a tad brighter than the natural one. Now when you click ok to finish and you watch it appear on your image, you will notice at different points in your image, flare will appear. These are the circles of light (some people call them orbs) that appear. I didn’t want this to happen because there was already some natural flare which I like and any more would just be cheesy.
So here is where I backtrack. Before I added the extra sunlight, I merged the two preset layers into one (right click on one of the layers in the layers palette and choose ‘flatten image’). Then, I right-clicked and chose ‘duplicate layer’. When I began the process of filter/render/flare, I did this on that top layer. When the orbs appeared after I clicked ‘ok’, I was then able to use the eraser tool to basically erase them away. But since there was a duplicate image layer under it, erasing the orbs just reveals the bottom layer. If there is too sharp a line around where you erased, you can either click undo and re-erase using a lower opacity eraser or just change the opacity of the whole top layer in the layers palette which also works nicely if you want to tone down the brightness of the added sunlight.
5.} Think that’s it? Think again! Once you I got the new sunburst sorted out, I again right clicked a layer and chose ‘flatten image’. Then I began my texture layers work. I opened the two textures I decided to use from Florabella Collection. I used the ‘tea stained’ overlay and ‘Elysium (cool)’ texture. I take quite a long time experimenting with different blend modes (I most often settle with either ‘overlay’ or ’soft light’) and opacities. The ‘Elysium cool’ texture from this collection works so well with green landscapes because it really adds an extra punch and depth and I use it often.
6.} When displaying an image which uses warm or bright light, I really recommend acquiring your prints from a professional print house from which you can purchase prints on metallic paper. Metallic paper adds a really appealing glow and shimmer to any image but is especially effective for sunlit images. I am so happy with the finished product of this image.
{IMAGE 2}


A fellow photographer said of this photo that it “has the most beautiful citrus tones and the sunlight looks like lemon.”
You should recognize this as a crop of the first photo. This time, I edited it to be less warm and more fresh and juicy.
1.} As in the first image, my first step was to ‘vitual copy’ the image and apply different presets. ‘During 1′ is Rebecca Lily’s ‘Spring Haze’ and 2 is Matt Kloskowski’s ‘Lomo’ preset which is free!
2.} In Photoshop, I layered 1 over 2 and applied the soft light blend mode. I took the opacity down very low as you can see, the finished product looks almost exactly like the Lomo-only edit of ‘During 2′. It does make a difference when viewed larger, though.
3.} I cropped the sun out of the image because I wanted the focus to be on the light this time, not the sun itself. I applied Florabella’s ‘Tea Stained’ and ‘Elysium Cool’ as in image 1 and voila! The same photo and the same process but different presets produces two images with an entirely different mood.
This is basically the same process I use when editing an image. The main steps I take are to apply different presets to multiple copies of an image and then layer those images in different ways in Photoshop and then finish it off with some texture work. It sounds like a long process, but when you get your process down, you can churn out fantastic images at a surprising speed. Just gives me more time to get out there and take more photos!




38 Responses to “Doublemint – Two Different Takes on the Same Green Scene” - Add Yours
September 25th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Interesting workflow you have got . I do think it has some limitations though as it is all done on presets, so fine tuning would be very difficult.
September 25th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Strangely enough, I like the “During 1″ of both images the most. The end results seems just that tad bit too fake to me to appeal.
September 25th, 2009 at 7:39 am
you are so correct here. everyone should play with their images to get them to their top game. I love using overlay to increase contrast as well. nice article.
September 25th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I have been using Rebecca Lily’s presets for a bit now and they are amazing. I sort of think they are a good way to start learning how to get the most out of Lightroom. Can you use the presets in Photoshop as well as Lightroom ?
September 25th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Meant to add that I blogged about installing presets and created a list of other presets that are available http://www.flixelpix.com/blog/view-from-tate-gallery/ that said I spent quite a few $$ on Rebecca’s presets. There is a also a flickr group to show off what you have created using the presets – http://www.flickr.com/groups/rebeccalilypresets/
September 25th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
You have once again out-done yourselves. We are proud to have the beautiful ones. The pictures are EXCELLENT!!!!
September 25th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Nice job, I like the results very much. And I’m very on your side when it comes to postprocessing. In digital photography it’s not optional, simple as that. What’t the thing about taken a JPG and saying “this is pure”. No it isn’t, you just left the decision about how your photo will look to a namless technican who configured the processing in the camera. No postprocessing is impossible. Either you choose, or the camera does.
Don’t get me wrong but I think this whole “you shouldn’t edit your photos” is made up by people who don’t know who to use the proper tools and want to hide this fact. Most of them were quite happy standing in the darkroom crossprocessing their negatives and the digital equivalent is a “No No”? Make me laugh.
In fact it’s like this: Lightroom, Aperture, Photoshop etc. are just tools. Tools like the camera, flashes etc. Learning to master them is part of learning photography nowadays. Refusing that is like saying:”I don’t have to learn how to use my small flash. I’ll just point it straight on the subject an BAM look how cool this photo is…”
My 2 cents to that.
September 25th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Oh one last thing: Is there really a need to BUY Lightroom Presets? I don’t mind ms. lily making money with her presets but there are tons of free presets around there and if you really see a look you like it’t easy to copy it.
Analysing a picture and thinking about the look the photographer created an then trying it for yourself in LR will actually give you a much more deep insight than just buying them. Also most presets are only kind of a starting point where you begin developing your own look for a specific picture (I seldom use the same thing twice, unless it’s series or something like that). Spending money for a starting point seems a little too much for me.
September 25th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
@Florian – here, here good comment! I’ve also used loads of free presets. Flickr has a group where people share them and the guy on that website I linked in the article with the free presets (lightroomkillertips.com) he’s created a preset extractor to swipe the levels used on a photo and turn it into a preset.
@David – No, you can’t use the presets in PS, but it’s my understanding is that the equivalent in PS is called ‘actions’ which you can also buy. I’ve never used them though.
September 26th, 2009 at 12:53 am
i agree with danferno here,
the original image looks the best, the others are just too much.
don’t get me wrong i love post editing my pics…i actualy started photoshopping 1in 1997 and got into photography 2 years ago so i totaly agree on the editing
but some photo’s just need a little nudge on some brightness, contrast, temperature sliders to get the job done.
these pictures above are nice but i think you overdid it. check out your histogram to rule out overlighting.
not to flame the topic of the poster…i couldn’t agree more on the importance and beauty of post editing
September 26th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Hi everyone and thanks for commenting! :) I’m really personally against worrying about the technicalities. I edited these photos until my heart told me I had them right and so one can never argue with an artist in that respect. The photos feel exactly how I wanted them to feel and they print beautifully, although I totally know that they don’t look the same in everyone’s screen which is such a huge pain to me :( It’s like eyes I suppose…not sure if everyone sees the same thing I do but that’s the risk one takes when they make their art (and heart) public to the rest of the world :)
September 26th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Great shots! Love the intense color.
Matt
September 26th, 2009 at 1:53 am
I want Photoshop :D It’s amazing what you can do with it! The photos are fab!
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September 26th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Ok, it’s good to go on the editing journey and ramp up the contrast/colour/exposure/whatever and play around.
However, eventually you will (hopefully) come back to “reality” with your editing choices. An art tutor I once had told me “never take sweets from strangers”, referring to the ridiculous amount of options on offer to edit and manipulate your work. Most pro photographers (unless working to a brief that calls for high contrast, high colour exaggerated reality images) will prefer not to patronize their audience with neat tricks, and will keep the edits subtle enough that no-one realizes the image has been through the editing mill.
Remember, a good magician never reveals his method. The photos you display here, whilst interesting to demonstrate what stage you are at in your editing journey, are too processed in my opinion. Take a step back. Let the image speak for itself. The original photo is fantastic, you’ve captured an essence there, I love it. Don’t put dynamite under it!
September 26th, 2009 at 2:27 am
In fact, the “During 1″ shots display some of the subtlety I’m talking about. All you need is a couple of walkers in the foreground and you could sell these to outdoor/walking magazines as they are :D
September 26th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Thank you so much for sharing this! I totally agree, I love playing with the editing process. Love your edits!!
September 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I support you all the way with editing; I edit every photo I publish in Adobe Photoshop CS4 and Adobe Camera Raw 5.0. Mostly it’s global editing like curves, contrast, white balance, saturation, blackness levels, adding vignetting, and highlight recovery, but I’ll do some localized dodging, burning, desaturation, and healing too if needed.
However, you’ve gone too far. Your goal is this: non-photographers should not be suspicious of your work. Photographers are always going to look for your edits, but outsiders won’t think about editing—unless it’s plainly obvious your photo has been “Photoshopped.” Here, it’s plainly obvious. Tone it down!
In fact, an easy way to tone down the yellow edit and the lime green edit would be to overlay it on the source image at 50% transparency. Bam, 50% less editing. These photos will be more realistic then.
Check out my portfolio (nature shots) for examples of significantly edited photos that don’t arouse suspicion among non-photographers.
September 26th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
wow, nice work. I also like to play with the different tools. Thanks for sharing.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
@Richard: hi thanks for reading! One can never tell an artist what their goal is because that is their own journey. My objective wasn’t realism I wanted ‘heavenly’ or somewhat ‘other worldly’. Photoshop is just paint. One could never critique a painters work the way people critique photography. The objective is whatever the photographer wants it to be! :)
September 26th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
The color temperature of a photo affects how we feel about it. Nice job on “warming up” the photo to give it a different feel than the original.
I agree with Scott Plum, some walkers in the photo would add a human element to it.
September 26th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
I like the raw images best.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 am
@Elizabeth: You obviously don’t know me… I would tell a painter the same thing! I have the right to judge your photography… I judge these photos to be over-edited… What you do with that judgment is a choice I leave to you.
Notice that this post has 21 comments and only 10 are significant. 4 of those say you’ve over-edited. A lot of people will leave good comments but if they don’t like your work they’ll stay silent… that means most people think you’ve gone too far.
Please try this: open the final version of these photos in Photoshop and check the gamut warning (View > Gamut Warning). Then soft proof to CMYK (View > Proof Setup, View > Proof Colors). Notice that your photographs CANNOT be reproduced accurately in print. That could mean a.) your colors are over-saturated, and/or b.) you’ve chosen color tones that are hard to print. In this case it’s a.) only.
I looked at your blog and your flickr photo stream. Good work, mostly over-edited, not as over-edited as the Doublemint stuff. The new photos of the baby are great, and are not over-edited. Your problem is with over-saturated colors but you also have some highlight clipping in many of your photos, usually in one channel. For example: this portrait. Most of the girl’s skin is clipped in the red channel (R value of 255). That’s bad.
When you add contrast through curves or levels in an RGB colorspace, you have to desaturate afterwards. Use the gamut warning or soft-proof as a tool to tell you where to use the desaturation brush, or do global desaturation under Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation. Note that in Lab colorspace this does not apply. Make sure to edit in 16-bit/channel mode in one of these colorspaces: Adobe RGB, ProPhoto RGB, Lab, Grayscale.
Keep working! You have a lot of potential.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I like the raw image best – but you are going for a different effect and I appreciate the effort and technique used. I have only just started using RAW decoding with Canon supplied DPP. I don’t know what i expected to appear on screen but I have what looks like normal photos to me – (ahh the innocence!) – or I am THAT good that no post tweeking is necessary at all? (Yeah right). My preference is for less tweaked stuff but it is just that – my own preference. Ultimately I think who we learn from and what techniques we learn will be dictated by whose style we like.
I found the point about different screens representing colours differently interesting. I have a Dell laptop and two screens on my main computer (I forget what at the moment) – colours are different in every one and non of them are quite ‘right’. I must do something about trying to standardize them – one day. Early attempts proved futile.
I would like to ask one question – it’s late and the technical phrase escapes me totally – but would a picture be considered good if it had the round light ‘thingy’ which appears half way down the road? Forgive me but aren’t these generally to be avoided?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Just had look at your flickr site. You have a lovely touch with photographing children. I wish mine were smaller so i could try some more but they’re much older and quite camera phobic now :(
September 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Great tips on these plug-ins- thank you so much for sharing.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
After reading all of the comments thus far, I definitely agree with Elizabeth – no one can tell you what’s right. People have preferences. Some people’s preferences come from what is “right”. For example, having golden light during sunrise/sunset. Some preferences come from the painting world. And some are just personal. Photography has come a long way from the 1800s when it was not considered art. I disagree with Thripp about such a thing as over editing. As long as that was your intention, then it’s art. If you did it accidentally or actually meant for it to look realistic, that’s a different story. Now, if you were a photojournalist or documentarian, you’d be getting into sketchy territory, but even there it’s not always 100% clear what the line is on editing. Can you correct white balance, what about burning and dodging, brightening or darkening?
September 29th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Hi Eric thanks so much for the great comment and vote of confidence and to know that someone agrees with me! Photography as an art is such a strange beast really. Because these days, it not only involves people interested in taking photographs but also computer people, digital fans, digital adversaries, etc. I guess it would be like people in the paint business getting irate when they think you’re not using their products properly while painting. I have had some comments in here about how I should have had walkers in the frame which is completely confusing to me becasue the image is meant to be nature-only. If I meant to take a photo with people walking in it, I would have. I should hope that as photographers, we would at least get our own subject matter right! Anyway…all these different opinions and angles on photography are amazing and refreshing and will keep this field one in which I will always reach higher and further and know that I will never hit the ceiling because there is ALWAYS room for improvement.
I know there are a great many strong opinions and visions which we can project onto another artist’s work, but the only strong opinion I have is that I don’t have any strong opinions! It’s all a matter of perspective and I cannot possibly look at someone’s photograph and say, “you should have had this or that” because if they meant to have a certain element in their photograph, they would have put it there in the first place. It’s take it or leave it. A photo is what it is and it’s not…well, what it’s not. You either love it and soak in it or you don’t and move on.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:06 am
A great reminder – and a huge inspiration – to learn more about photoshop. Your results are both beautiful!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Great read, I’ll certainly try out some more filters as soon as I get my computer fixed:)
However, there are a few points were I think the method is not ideal. I’m by no means anything more than an amateur in photography or post-processing, I do however have some techniques I use. Most important first: the Eraser, don’t use it. Simple as that. I never use the eraser anymore, the reason being that there exist a much more powerful and flexible tool in Photoshop’s arsenal. The Layer Mask is a tool you really should consider putting more to use. With it you can do all the same as you can do with the eraser, but it’s the tool’s ability to restore the erased that is so great. Sure you have the undo option, but what do you do when the next day discovers that you removed a little bit too much on that spot? With the layer mask you just paint it back.
Another thing, that might just be because of different tastes in the processing, but I prefer to have as much as possible control when I’m working, which means I can go back to what I did at the beginning and change it. This is of course not always possible, and you might understand that this is one of the reasons that I love the Layer Mask so much over the Eraser. What I’m talking about now is your choice of “flattening image” when making a new change. I do however prefer to make a new layer and then use the “Apply image…” command. In the end this might not matter much, but it gieves me a better sense of control.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 am
Hi Elizabeth!
I love your pics,.. they are refreshing and have a life of their own,.. and simply beautiful!,..
I have been using photoshop for 14 years now,… and its easy for some of us digital people to become mechanical with no heart in our creations,..
you happen to take something and give it life,.. therefore,.. mission accomplished!
I believe if it evokes emotion, then you’ve done it! regardless of what steps you took!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
i agree …i must have been studying for the past 2 years …looking at youtube …all the how to do this and that …i looked at them all …at least 5-10 times …this site …omg …everyday ….then other sites also ….i buy magazines …look at books ….everything you can imagine …i dont use photoshop …i try to do the best shot i can …thats all ..im no pro ….trust me …but i can tell you one thing ..i went to a fashion show one day ….2 paid photographers where there …and guess what …they both had crappy pictures …they where soooooo bad …that a few days later …from my flickr account …the company that had hired the 2 guys stole one of my pictures from my account to post for there advertisement …i was honored …but mad …they didnt ask me …so …i found this out from one of the models that worked there that night …she saw her pic there and knew i was the one that took it …the thing is ….i did a white balance before the show …i studied the lighting …i set my camera on manual …i adjusted my flash …i got everything ready …these 2 so called pros came in just before the show began …didnt set anything …they just started shooting …at the end of the night …i asked them both how they liked there shoot …they said …all great shots …when i looked …omg …way too bright …blurry …..mine where not pro …but i was proud …all they said was …no prob …photoshop will fix them …so ..if your a pro …explain to me …why need photoshop …and why think your all that if you need photoshop …i understand for certain things …ya i guess you do …but …wouldnt it be better if all you had to do was crop …then print …saves a few hours i bet …oh well …im no pro …so maybe im wrong …thanks for reading my pet peeve http://www.flickr.com/photos/acierman
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Thanks for the photo editing tips. It does bring dramatic changes to your photo
To me, it almost recreated a new story from the original take, which to me is still acceptable and good.
I do not know what’s your intention of such extreme editing, but it does bring out the photos in it own way.
IMO the edited photo gives a very warm sunny kind of feeling, is like walking back memory lane.
The original photo on the other hand just make you feel like at present moment.
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October 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
There are no rights and wrongs, but for me the photograph is ruined by the lens flair, it draws my eye in and detracts from the rest.
Chris
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I agree with the author whole heatedly. All the changes in cameras and software have made it so easy for anyone to explore photography as more than just taking pictures. Photographers can be artists !!!
October 4th, 2009 at 3:29 am
I agree with Benjamin (30 Sept, above) that layer masking might save you some time. It would basically invert the process of step #4 (for 1st image walkthrough). Instead of erasing what you don’t want, you could just mark what you do want. Depends on whether you now what you want. Minor point, but it could save you a bit of time. Else, well done on making some ordinary (not a critique, but simply as in natural scenes that don’t really stand out) pictures look stellar.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
i totally agree! when i was starting i am on to this site every single day, reading the techniques and comments, take a look at the pictures, join the assignments. half of what i know now came from this website! and the good thing is, it’s FREE!!!!
October 10th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Ran into this article while looking for something else. Somehow I missed this one when it was first posted.
I think a lot of the comments going back and forth about over processing and whatnot came about because the author actually showed us the before and after and the steps in between.
If all she did was show the final shots, I don’t know if the people saying it’s over processed will agree…or if the people who liked the processing would like it without the knowledge of it beforehand.
I think there’s a time and place for both heavy and light processing. Sometimes you want that “hyper reality” look. And if it’s visually pleasing then even better.
Thanks for giving us a peek into your process. I love Florabella textures but I really haven’t tried blending multiple presets. Interesting. If nothing else, I hope this has inspired people to give different techniques a try or, just as well, decide something is not for you :)
October 14th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Gorgeous work & fantastic tutorial, Elizabeth! Thanks so much for mentioning my textures! ?
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