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September 18, 2013 01:58 am
I thought this is 103 things that eric kim learn about street photography ..
There is no mentioning about rules ... or guidance whatsoever ..
If it was me i only had 1 list
When a master had spoken .. you listen
September 15, 2013 06:04 pm
I agree w Rob from Sept 13th.. You never know in the "real" streets who is safe to take photos of. Photos of wrong person or group may get you killed. I tend to consider my audience and my location. *Be reminded: Not every person in the streets is an innocent man.
September 15, 2013 05:47 pm
Some good points you've shared. *I'd like to add: 104. If you do have a questionable dirty background, you can change your photo to black & white. By making this change, it can give it a different look and a more timeless feel. The background is no longer a distraction.
September 13, 2013 11:17 am
Thanks Fred for your polite questions. I could have been more diplomatic but I did not say the point of view was stupid, but that 'distasteful' was a stupid sentiment in this context. Why? Because street photography and photojournalism generally defines picture making that should be true to the context illustrated - or to some other context. Any image of kids playing with guns is disturbing, and many like myself need disturbing sometimes. Whether or not Mark was disturbed by the image he did not say, but that it offended his 'taste' provoked my comment. Violence is not a question of taste. Do you agree?
September 13, 2013 06:17 am
bob loosemore says:
The picture may have been illustrating ‘messy backgrounds’. It may also illustrate how kids in a violent environment play violence. ‘Distaste’ is a stupid sentiment to express in this context, John Thomas. I don’t think you looked at the picture, perhaps you were busy. (Who is pointing the gun? (One of two))
Why is Marks point of view stupid? everyone sees art in a different light, everyone wont have the same taste or level of acceptance of situations as you do - the comment "stupid" is as much a personal statement on your behalf as the comment the poster made he finds it distasteful
Bob I think you need to revisit your thinking and allow others to have there point of view of how they see the art and how it makes them feel, each person will have different emotions this is what makes art so awesome
September 13, 2013 06:13 am
Interesting discussion. Too bad the author hasn't added any comments.
September 13, 2013 04:26 am
I love travel and street photography, here is one of my fav's that I took on a recent trip in a small fishing village called Hout Bay in Cape Town South Africa.
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September 13, 2013 04:19 am
Great article, I love street and travel photography, here is one of my fav's from my own portfolio...hope it brings someone else as much joy as it does for me.[eimg url='http://pixmag.ning.com/photo/old-friends?context=user' title='old-friends?context=user']
September 13, 2013 12:13 am
Do people actually read what is written? "103 things I've learned about street photography" not "103 hard and fast rules about how to take photographs in the street." You look at what is said. You try them out. You see the results. You decide what suits YOU.
In Belize I was almost assaulted by the first person I looked as though I was going to photograph. A net fisherman casting his net into the surf. Lucky it was on the second day there. Always asked permission from then on.
thanks for the ideas. Gives me something to work towards.
September 12, 2013 04:59 am
Hi Eric and Darren,
Would you be interested if I translated this article for the French audience?
Looking forward to hearing from you!
September 12, 2013 04:48 am
What a great article!!! Thank you!
Love it and am going to RT and share on FB.
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September 11, 2013 10:41 pm
#18 seems to be questionable. I've always been taught by many to expose to the right in digital. Eliminating data is easy but not adding. So overexposure is always better than underexposure. More than half of the image data is in the right of the histogram. So if in doubt, push exposure to the right, shoot raw and fix it in post processing. It has worked for me.
September 11, 2013 05:48 pm
Watermarks can be useful to be recognise as the author, just a corner with your url. There is no crime in that.
I like the 71 "A LOT"... you can void 90% of the comments here ;)
"The best camera bag in street photography is no camera bag." < I disagree, I need to carry a bag with me to put some stuff like hoodie/sweater, umbrella/raincoat (if applies), sunglasses, smartphone, batteries... and why not, a pen and a little notebook. I like that in a backpack.
September 11, 2013 04:06 pm
#71 and #75...
I've seen plenty of pictures on instagram, flickr, and facebook that are miles better than the pictures you posted... if this is what is representative of your portfolio then I will take your advice with #71 and just save my time not reading the article. the comments here were pretty helpful.
oh also, yea. #18... you're wrong. digital has more details in the lighter areas as long as you're not blowing out your highlights. well documented and proven.
September 9, 2013 03:14 am
Edmund. 'Shutter priority' is still a programme where the meter is supposed to know which part of the tonal range you want exposed correctly (on the straight part of the curve, maybe a bit of shoulder). It does NOT know.
And how can you 'bracket' action- or street-shots? A photographer has to KNOW how to find and set the exposure required. This means knowing that large areas of deep shadow or bright highlight in the metered area can require compensation.
September 9, 2013 03:01 am
The picture may have been illustrating 'messy backgrounds'. It may also illustrate how kids in a violent environment play violence. 'Distaste' is a stupid sentiment to express in this context, John Thomas. I don't think you looked at the picture, perhaps you were busy. (Who is pointing the gun? (One of two))
September 8, 2013 08:29 am
Quote John Thomas
"I generally try to refrain from any unfair criticism when it comes to these articles, but for the life of me, I don’t understand how a picture in an article of kids aiming a gun at their heads helps to get a point across? I admit I didn’t read all 103 points, but can someone help me understand what point this picture is illustrating? I’m sure there were plenty of other photos could have been provided to illustrate the author’s point. This image I just find distasteful."
I must disagree. You are conflating your distaste of an image with the standards of appropriateness - a very dangerous slippery slope. The fact that you find it distasteful does not make the image invalid - its subjective, for me it did not bother me at all - John some of us have traveled or seen far worse than this. By your logic war photographers should never show their work. And yet some have opened the world's eyes - would you stifle them because it discomforts you?
If anything this image creates questions, curiosity, why is that child holding a gun to their head, what were they thinking or feeling etc.
September 8, 2013 06:47 am
For ray r. I want to hear what the elite have to say - and there must be an elite unless you believe that nothing distinguishes the work and experience of a few from the rest. If you are constantly striving to improve you will reject most images for one or more reasons. However, less than perfect can still be useful.
September 7, 2013 05:04 am
"Shoot from the gut, edit with the brain” – Anders Petersen
September 6, 2013 10:54 pm
#41 nails it!
September 6, 2013 10:51 pm
Eric, great list!
Rule #41 Shoot for yourself, not others.
Why did you not make it #1?
Love your observations about social media.
September 6, 2013 01:30 pm
Watermarks in street photographs ruin the viewing experience for your audience.
Yes, yes, a hundred times yes! I get so frustrated when I see great work ruined by ugly watermarks... share your work and accept the risks or just keep it to yourself. No happy medium here.
September 6, 2013 11:38 am
awesome article! Now you have me hooked on going out and shooting street photography
September 6, 2013 10:08 am
Thank you very much for the knowledge you have imparted. I have read a lot of tips on stree photography and I agree with Bob Loosemore, This is by far the best compilation of tips I have seen. Great work. Thanks for thee inspiring me to continue with my photography.
September 6, 2013 09:41 am
Ah, Chris Porsz, I love your #104! "Walk for miles"...I heartily, heartily agree.
I am shy and have trouble asking but try to be respectful and am working on this. I am now wondering whether to zoom or not to zoom. I am intrigued by the idea of sticking to one focal length for awhile. I wonder what the DPS community thinks about the comments regarding social media...
All-in-all ,this is a thought-provoking and controversial piece. Thank you for writing!
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September 6, 2013 08:47 am
I think that some tips may be useful. SOME. But how narrow-minded can one be and tell people NOT to ask for permission. This may work in the western world. But it is absolutely INAPPROPRIATE in many other societies. I lived for many years in Africa, Ethiopia. I photographed there. In the streets. In cafes. In the houses. Concerts. Cultural and religious events. There in Ethiopia and in many other parts of this world you just can't do something like that many times. But you have to ask and most times you will get the permission. How unbelievable colonialist you would behave in many, many countries of this world when not asking. Another way of colonialisationing and inposing alien behaviour on others. It is like, you know you're entering peoples' private, very private sphere sometimes! All in all a partly useful, partly "posh" and superfluous article. Skip most of the #, stay with a fixed lens, go out and photograph ... and ask. And learn.
September 6, 2013 04:27 am
Thank You for openly sharing your insights into street photography an area I have not had the opportunity to pursue yet. Many of your points are also applicable in other areas as well. Lots to think about.
September 6, 2013 04:21 am
Just adopt a few ideas from Eric's list and you will make some great images. No 104, walk for miles
September 6, 2013 04:00 am
When making lens size recommendations, please specify what camera format you are referring to (full frame , micro 4/3, APS, other).
September 6, 2013 03:25 am
Easy to quibble on 103 points. Look at the big picture. A great list of pointers on street photography. Thanks Eric for sharing.
September 6, 2013 03:04 am
Many, many good points, but #29 made me laugh & is so far the highlight of my day. Thanks.
September 6, 2013 02:57 am
This is the worst article I have ever read on this site. For some reason there is a tendency for hardcore street photographers to say or many righteous things about the art. Who on Earth would want to believe they will only take ten decent photos in 10 years? I could go on and on, but this filled with so much elitism, it makes me angry.
September 6, 2013 02:52 am
Bob, I could not agree more strongly. "Stick the camera on program mode at 1600 ASA". A disaster waiting to happen and very patronising. Also the snobishness of "I only use manual". Even with film cameras 30 years ago I used aperture priority and bracketed if I was not sure, the lattitude on transparency film was not great. Now you can set an auto bracket of between three and seven stops - no brainer.
The only good tip in this article is using fixed focal length lenses. Mine is 40mm f1.7 (35mm equivilent) as sharp as you can get, tiny pancake, which makes it easy to put the camera in my pocket. Eric Kim disparages micro 4/3 as some form of amateur format. The prints I do with mine are as good as Kodachrome 64 in 35mm with an OM2 / OM4 and the most expensive lenses available (my standard lens was a 35mm shift Zukio). This was manual, had to be manually stopped down, beautiful piece of glass. But the world has moved on.
September 3, 2013 12:36 pm
These are some great points! I definitely to hear a few of these. I tend to switch between zoom lenses and my 35mm. I'm going to try and stick to my 35mm for a while (A year maybe :).
September 2, 2013 07:20 pm
I am going to disagree with David strongly. (#75) You may not become a better photographer by only looking at the best, you MAY be useless what ever you look at, BUT thinking the average blog pic is normal will destroy any chance you have of learning.
September 2, 2013 07:07 pm
I agree with majorbokeh, I am 75 and a great admirer of Cartier-Bresson, In his time zoom lenses were rubbish, but his style was very very strong due to his avoidance of wide-angle and long-focus work. Sadly we are not Cartier-Bresson.
After 60 years of photography most of my best shots have been taken in the last 5 years - with a cheap Olympus SP55OUZ. It only stops action accidently, is noisy at 400 ISO, can't work in sunlight (except landscapes).......
They are my best pictures BECAUSE of photo-editing - but bad compositions are instantly rejected.
However Eric is right - Street Photography is about the street NOT the editing skills. This is by far the best compilation of tips I have seen . Ever.
September 2, 2013 06:46 pm
Yes Shutternutter, #18 is wrong, especially if you have a simple digital camera. Over- or under- MEANS wrong! Latitude in digital is different from film, and empty highlights are empty for ever.
#21 is badly wrong. NO 'programme' knows what part of the scene you are interested in. Unless you have a very advanced digital you MUST make exposure decisions. I say, spend a few years learning 'manual' and use the histogram to see if your image will edit nicely. ISO 1600 is ONLY for top cameras (and emergencies) - the noise on others will be totally destructive.
September 2, 2013 02:26 am
Rule 104. "There are no rules".
September 2, 2013 02:21 am
@john thomas: the point of the photo is that it made you feel, caused you to register that feeling, and made you think. All in all a successful photo, I'd say.
September 1, 2013 04:40 pm
I regularly blog and I am impressed that you wrote 103 things! I usually get exhausted by 10. Though I am scared of street photography I am flirting with it once in a while. Loved reading through your list. Many of your tips about social media could be true for other genres as well.
September 1, 2013 06:57 am
Like Hugh above has said interesting tips but I disagree with a lot of them, especially #28,#29,#75.
September 1, 2013 06:07 am
Definitely agree with 74 - I think everything I photograph tends to be a reflection of my inner mood at the time. Not sure about 72 though, personally my favourite lens for street photography is my 18-200 as I find there's less opportunities missed....Recently watched the Kelby Training video of Jay Maisel talking about street photography (well worth a watch), he is a strong advocate of zooms for the same reason. I guess each to their own though!
September 1, 2013 05:56 am
Interesting list, Hugh is right though, 18 is factually wrong - there is far more detail in the highlights hence it is better to "shoot to the right" and overexpose slightly for optimum raw processing. Actually I think what you've done is got 17 and 18 the wrong way round.
September 1, 2013 04:43 am
No. 69 and 74 tell it all. Just go and have fun being who you are. Thank you very much, a lot of great tips. I will be going out later today to shoot around my small town that I live in, population 15,000 . Thanks again, chuck......
September 1, 2013 03:01 am
Many good thoughts, but the article could have been "83 Things I’ve Learned About Street Photography."
Quite a few of the ideas were redundant. Same thought restated another way. Especially about one camera one lens and critiques.
September 1, 2013 02:17 am
PS. My comment applies to shooting RAW only.
September 1, 2013 02:16 am
Interesting tips, but I disagree with many. I believe #18 is wrong and should be removed or disregarded. Check this out: http://www.dpmag.com/how-to/shooting/overexposing-raw.html
September 1, 2013 01:18 am
#17 & #18 "When shooting film, it is better to over expose than underexpose (film has more details in the highlights).
When shooting digital, it is better to unexpose than overexpose (digital has more details in the shadows)."
Is this correct? I have always heard that there is more detail in the highlights in digital, so it's better to overexposed digital.
August 31, 2013 11:54 pm
I generally try to refrain from any unfair criticism when it comes to these articles, but for the life of me, I don't understand how a picture in an article of kids aiming a gun at their heads helps to get a point across? I admit I didn't read all 103 points, but can someone help me understand what point this picture is illustrating? I'm sure there were plenty of other photos could have been provided to illustrate the author's point. This image I just find distasteful.
August 31, 2013 04:22 pm
Some typos, but a good list.
I like #71
August 31, 2013 03:46 pm
That is a one long list. Need to try a lot.
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