How to Photograph Bands in Bars, Part 3 – Shooting

How to Photograph Bands in Bars, Part 3 – Shooting

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A guest post by Music Photographer Rick Bennett.

Drummer, well lit by off-camera flash

Bars are challenging shooting environments now matter how you slice it–crappy lighting, drunk crowds, cramped spaces. Add in musicians who like to move around a lot, speakers in photographically inconvenient locations, and microphone stands that tend to bisect heads, and you’ve got an ideal situation for a photographer who likes a challenge. In Part 1, I covered the basics of equipment needed to shoot bands in bars: low-noise-at-high-iso cameras, off-camera flash, and mongo glass. In Part 2 I talked about where I’ve found success with placing my flashes, and the camera settings that have yielded the best results. Finally, in this part, I get to the shooting.

Before you start shooting, take care of your ears so that you can do this more than a couple of times–buy some ear plugs at your local hardware store (near the goggles and other protective gear) or pharmacy (near the sleep aids). I find I spend a significant amount of time standing right in front of the speakers, and my ears are ringing pretty badly by the end of a performance if I don’t use ear plugs. Even with the plugs in, you’ll be able to hear every part of the performance.

While shooting, you must be polite. Most people are accommodating if you step in front of them for a moment to make a shot, but do that too frequently or for too long, and you’ll start to irritate the fans of the band. Remember that the band is there to perform for their fans. The pictures you make are secondary to that purpose. I’ve only been in one situation where I felt like my presence as a photographer was not appreciated by one fan–I finished the shot and stepped off the dance floor. The huge majority of the time, people are very forgiving of me moving in and out of the crowd in order to get the shot I want. But I’m very careful to not obstruct any one person’s view for more than a few seconds–no more than any other fan would obstruct their view.

The easiest way to stay out of the fans’ view is to crouch down for the low angle. Most big bands perform on a stage that is raised several feet above the heads of the crowd so that everyone can see. Bands who play in bars don’t generally have this advantage, but you can create that look by taking pictures from low angles. The shots look cool, and the fans will appreciate not having to look around your f/2.8 lens to see their favorite guitar solo.

Shot from a low angle to stay out of the way

I find the most challenging aspect of shooting musicians is composing shots without microphone shadows or severe instrument shadows. This isn’t a problem for guitars, but any instrument that is close to the face can be problematic, e.g. saxophone, trumpet, violin/fiddle. The shadows are easy to see if you’re shooting with ambient stage lighting and no flash. But with remote flash, it means you have to be on the same side of the instrument or microphone as your flash is. In this lighting diagram, if the left flash fires, the microphone will cast a nasty shadow across the singer’s face. If the right hand flash fires, no shadow problem. So you have to stay close to the flash, but not so close that it looks like on-camera flash.

Off camera flash, no microphone shadow

The other major compositional challenge is getting pictures framed so that microphones and stands don’t detract from, or steal attention in, the photo. Microphones and stands are part of a performance, but I don’t like them to dominate a picture. For example, if I’m framing two musicians in the shot and the microphone from one musician is covering the face of the other, I won’t take the shot (or I’ll delete it later). I’ll change my position, or wait until the musicians change theirs if I can.

I also don’t particularly care for shots from dead-center on a signer. It will look like they’re eating their microphone, or worse, have it shoved up their nose. That’s why I tend to take pictures from the side–I get great shots when the singer pulls back from the microphone a little bit so that you can see their whole face.

Singers pull back from microphones to reveal their whole faces

If I’m shooting the gig for the band, or in the hopes that the band will hire me in the future, I’ll work through the following shot list during their performance:

  • a couple of shots of every member of the band. If some play and sing, I’ll capture them doing both.
  • detail shots, generally closeups of instruments during a set break. Not all of them, just those that strike me as interesting photographically.
  • detail shots of instruments being played. Again, not all of them, but whatever strikes me as interesting at the time. I love shots of accordions!
  • motion blur of fingers on instruments, usually a guitar or bass. No flash here, just a 1/15 to 1/60s shutter, and up close with a f/1.8 lens. The challenge here is to capture a moment where the instrument isn’t moving very much, but the fingers are.
  • any time the band interacts with the fans or fans enjoying the show, e.g. clapping, dancing, rock hands, etc, with band and fans in the frame
  • a group shot where a) all the band members are visible in the frame, and b) everyone is playing, and c) a little bit of audience

Accordion!

Finally, be sure to give the drummer some lovin’. Drummers are usually in the back, with no stage lighting whatsoever, and as such, they rarely have pictures taken of them. I’ll even change the angle and power of remote flashes if I need to in order to capture a drummer. I make it my mission to capture at least one killer image of the drummer before I go home for the evening. If the drummer has any ambient lighting hitting them at all, a slow shutter will create some great motion blur.

Drummers need great photos too!

When taking all of these pictures, I’m looking for “music faces”–points where the musicians are clearly enjoying themselves, and “music moments” where two (or more) musicians are jamming together. These are the images I really like to see. When I look at my images in post processing, I can tell who captured my attention photographically because I’ve got a lot more images of them. And I’ve walked away from shooting some gigs (not paid, or pre-arranged by the band) because the musicians weren’t performing–they just stood there playing their instruments. Meh, that’s no fun. I could have taken five shots and have faithfully captured their performance.

Music Moment and Music Face in one shot

Make sure the band knows how to get in touch with you by the end of the performance. They’ll definitely have noticed you (especially if you have that 70-200 f/2.8 lens) and are probably interested in seeing your work.

What you do with the images and how you processes them will depend on your purpose in taking them. If you wanted to get the band’s attention and hopefully have them hire you, then pick a handful of the best and get them on-line in a hurry. That will help solidify in their memory that you were the one taking pictures, and, holy cow, you took some great ones! If the band had already hired you, then I assume you’ve already worked out a method of payment and delivery.

As you’re going through the images from the night, don’t sweat the deletes. I typically keep only 1/4 to 1/3 of the images from a night of shooting. And the band doesn’t see those out-of-focus poorly framed shots.

Don’t wait for the band to contact you–reach out to them through whatever means possible: Facebook, Twitter, their website. Let them know where to see your work and how to contact you for more.

Good luck! And share your work in the forums.

Rick Bennett has been shooting bands in bars, at festivals, and on big stages for about a year. You can see more of his work on his blog, portfolio, or Flickr stream.

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  • I’ve enjoyed reading this 3-piece set, as a friend of mine has started a band with a few of her friends and I’ve offered to take some photos of them to help them out. I feel like I am better prepared for this now.

    Thanks for sharing this Rick!

  • Good tips on the earplugs and on not forgetting the drummers. For earplugs I use and recommend those from Etymotic Research, which are far superior to those sold in drugstores, as they decrease the decibel level without muffling the sounds of the music. They fit much better than foam earplugs too, with two sizes available. You can get them for less than $20 a pair; great investment.

    When I shoot drummers, I try to get as close to the stage as possible, even leaning on the stage in some cases. Using my 85/1.8 lens I can usually get some good shots (always without flash), with some motion blur from the sticks but otherwise sharp. I often have to crop quite a bit, but hey, that’s no problem with a 21mpx camera. 🙂

  • Just to add to my comment on drummers: Here are three photos from my current Blue Bear School of Music exhibit. Two were taken at a small club and one was shot at a restaurant/bar with very poor lighting. None use flash. All were shot with a Canon 5D Mk II.

    [eimg url=’http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v4/p231205021-3.jpg’ title=’p231205021-3.jpg’]

    [eimg url=’http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v4/p15314971-3.jpg’ title=’p15314971-3.jpg’]

    [eimg url=’http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v9/p911893450-3.jpg’ title=’p911893450-3.jpg’]

  • @Julie Bernstein: thanks for the plug on the ear plugs. I knew there had to be better ones out there. I’ll definitely check those out. I especially like your second drummer sample. That background is cool and rustic. Very nice.

  • Thanks Rick! That second photo was the one in the restaurant with poor lighting; used my 50/1.4 at ISO 1600, 1/30 shutter speed while holding my breath…

  • I just did my first free/fun concert shoot. A local bar had a hip-hop act playing and some opening acts. I got super good access (love small towns for some things) and managed to get some shots I’m happy with. I had to use no flash though, so these were all ambient @ 3200 ISO. Grainier than I like, but with some PP and BW conversions where it matters I’m happy with my first attempt.

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896945648/’ title=’Sweatshop Tease 2′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4896945648_43053eb015.jpg’]

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896313409/’ title=’Ill Literate Tease 2′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4896313409_4cf6386622.jpg’]

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896920064/’ title=’Gemini Tease 1′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4896920064_c6b18df034.jpg’]

  • Fabulous informative articles – thank you SO much! I have been photographing bands (and dancers) for a while, but with zero formal instruction, and you’ve certainly filled in some gaps in my knowledge!
    I have a couple of questions:
    When hoping to get a band/musician’s attention with your photographs, in the hopes of getting a future paying gig, is it best to send images to them watermarked, or not? I’m nervous/cautious about others “stealing” my work from which I’m trying to earn an income.
    Second, I often shoot in a casual environment where there are a number of other photographers shooting (none of us are the named “official” photographer). I believe there is an etiquette of shooting – you shouldn’t jump in front of a photographer who has their camera up to their eye ready to shoot, etc. However, it seems that so many photographers don’t follow this courtesy. Is it acceptable for me to make a comment to the person who blocked my shot more than once (“hey dude – not cool”), or am I being overly sensitive or lacking in competitiveness?
    Thank you so much for these articles, Rick – and thanks Darren for this always-informative blog!

  • My tip: take advantage of the breaks between sets! The musicians will be off stage and you can got something other than just performance shots.

    Try taking your macro lens to catch closeups of the equipment…
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4811056297/’ title=’Lou’s Pier 47 – July 18, 2010′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4811056297_ce6c4ba541.jpg’]
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4824183943/’ title=’Tessora’s Barra di Vino – July 23, 2010′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4824183943_3fa0e7213e.jpg’]

    Or if you have some time with the musicians, get some candid shots – they’ll appreciate those as well as the great performance photos. 🙂

  • My tip: Take advantage of the breaks between sets! The musicians will be away from the microphones and you have the opportunity to get something beyond just the ordinary performance shots.

    Try pulling yout your macro lens to get closeups of the instruments and equipment to capture the mood:
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4811056297/’ title=’Lou’s Pier 47 – July 18, 2010′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4811056297_ce6c4ba541.jpg’]
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4824186537/’ title=’Tessora’s Barra di Vino – July 23, 2010′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4824186537_5230709f75.jpg’]

    And if you can catch the musicians on break, be sure to get some candid shots – they’ll appreciate having those to work with in addition to whatever photos you have of their performance. 🙂

  • Great Pics Thanks

    LRick!Love. A all the great hints thanks Love all the Ll

  • BB ooops! Really like all the info traveling with and for bands is the most fun to shoot just going to start with an DSLR as you can see on my my space these wew all shot with a litlle digital camera

  • Paula Fankhauser

    thanks for the info. i was wondering if you had some additional info or stuff you would change for an outdoor concert?

  • @Paula Frankhauser; Outdoor during daylight–absolutely don’t need flash unless you want to compete with blown out backgrounds. Then its all about composition and either isolating performers from distracting back grounds or getting them into context with the fans. At night with crappy stage lighting–pretty much the same as I described here. At night with great stage lighting–again composition rules the day, capturing the mood, environment, and back-lighting.

    A recent festival I shot, almost all daylight: Part 1, Part 2.

  • MaG

    Rick, so good to read your articles…. this is my favorite kind of subjects to shoot!

  • Thanks so much for this great post. I have just started shooting bands, and have realized that it always lends for an interesting and challenging shoot. I do have to say though, I don’t think I have found any other subject who are as energetic and fun to work with as a talented group of musicians. Rock on guys!

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4818110495/’ title=’Jack the Radio 1′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4818110495_1bd18a4425.jpg’]
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4945018437/’ title=’_MG_1084′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4945018437_3d75f5b900.jpg’]
    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4945019245/’ title=’IMG_1178′ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/4945019245_d49a5fb3c0_z.jpg’]

  • Lighting is one thing I’ve struggled with. I generally shoot no flash at all and with the venue I normally frequent, that’s ok. Gonna put some of these tips into action and hope not to get thrown off the stage by an out-of-the-loop bouncer again…

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4754698267/sizes/m/in/set-72157624444297590/%5B/img%5D

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4355201182/’ title=’Jes Winter’ url=’http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4355201182_d2c98a8c28.jpg’][img]

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4463294871/’ title=’ATFcdr-2′ url=’http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/4463294871_6842517e77_z.jpg’]

    [eimg link=’http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4582235964/’ title='(the day after) mayday parade’ url=’http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4582235964_ffa4553742_o.jpg’]

    I have a ton more work here:
    http://amotherslovephotography.smugmug.com/Music

  • http://jpgmag.com/photos/2596055 this is taken with 50mm lens @ thamel kathmandu nepal

  • A lot has changed in the last few years. I agree that “crouched” shots and angles are all the rave, but I do want to add that the modern cell phone has changed things alot. Now a days anybody is a photographer and photography is easier than ever.

  • cman

    I heard that most musicians do not like it when flash is being used, especially bands that tour around the country. Most of them only let you shoot for three songs, as well.
    Def use a 1.4f or 1.8f lens 1600 iso and adjust exposure accordingly. Also great if your on Facebook and can friend them. Their other musician friends will also be able to see your work as well. Selling yourself in advance:)
    I mostly shoot local bands and they are always appreciative and tend to be very nice guys and ladies. Also, just a new tip I found when you leave be sure to thank them for allowing you to shoot them if your paid or not Just common courtesy and another good way for them to remember your face behind the camera!
    Anyone can take a picture at bar but they will appreciate it more from someone who knows what they are doing, if you do it for a living or for hobby.Local musicians can always use great photos that are not taken by an android or iPhone.

  • Donna J

    A lot of good tips here Rick, thank you!

Some Older Comments

  • Richard H January 10, 2013 08:14 am

    A lot has changed in the last few years. I agree that "crouched" shots and angles are all the rave, but I do want to add that the modern cell phone has changed things alot. Now a days anybody is a photographer and photography is easier than ever.

  • sangesh November 24, 2011 09:22 pm

    http://jpgmag.com/photos/2596055 this is taken with 50mm lens @ thamel kathmandu nepal

  • Shana September 3, 2010 12:27 am

    Lighting is one thing I've struggled with. I generally shoot no flash at all and with the venue I normally frequent, that's ok. Gonna put some of these tips into action and hope not to get thrown off the stage by an out-of-the-loop bouncer again...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4754698267/sizes/m/in/set-72157624444297590/[/img]

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4355201182/' title='Jes Winter' url='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4355201182_d2c98a8c28.jpg'][img]

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4463294871/' title='ATFcdr-2' url='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/4463294871_6842517e77_z.jpg']

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/amotherslovephotography/4582235964/' title='(the day after) mayday parade' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4582235964_ffa4553742_o.jpg']

    I have a ton more work here:
    http://amotherslovephotography.smugmug.com/Music

  • Hudson September 1, 2010 02:02 am

    Thanks so much for this great post. I have just started shooting bands, and have realized that it always lends for an interesting and challenging shoot. I do have to say though, I don't think I have found any other subject who are as energetic and fun to work with as a talented group of musicians. Rock on guys!

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4818110495/' title='Jack the Radio 1' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4818110495_1bd18a4425.jpg']
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4945018437/' title='_MG_1084' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4945018437_3d75f5b900.jpg']
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/huddy331/4945019245/' title='IMG_1178' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/4945019245_d49a5fb3c0_z.jpg']

  • MaG August 31, 2010 11:21 pm

    Rick, so good to read your articles.... this is my favorite kind of subjects to shoot!

  • Rick Bennett August 30, 2010 01:59 pm

    @Paula Frankhauser; Outdoor during daylight--absolutely don't need flash unless you want to compete with blown out backgrounds. Then its all about composition and either isolating performers from distracting back grounds or getting them into context with the fans. At night with crappy stage lighting--pretty much the same as I described here. At night with great stage lighting--again composition rules the day, capturing the mood, environment, and back-lighting.

    A recent festival I shot, almost all daylight: Part 1, Part 2.

  • Paula Fankhauser August 30, 2010 12:23 pm

    thanks for the info. i was wondering if you had some additional info or stuff you would change for an outdoor concert?

  • Annie August 27, 2010 06:16 am

    BB ooops! Really like all the info traveling with and for bands is the most fun to shoot just going to start with an DSLR as you can see on my my space these wew all shot with a litlle digital camera

  • Annie August 27, 2010 06:04 am

    Great Pics Thanks

    LRick!Love. A all the great hints thanks Love all the Ll

  • Rachel Kumar August 27, 2010 04:59 am

    My tip: Take advantage of the breaks between sets! The musicians will be away from the microphones and you have the opportunity to get something beyond just the ordinary performance shots.

    Try pulling yout your macro lens to get closeups of the instruments and equipment to capture the mood:
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4811056297/' title='Lou's Pier 47 - July 18, 2010' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4811056297_ce6c4ba541.jpg']
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4824186537/' title='Tessora's Barra di Vino - July 23, 2010' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4824186537_5230709f75.jpg']

    And if you can catch the musicians on break, be sure to get some candid shots - they'll appreciate having those to work with in addition to whatever photos you have of their performance. :)

  • Rachel Kumar August 27, 2010 04:54 am

    My tip: take advantage of the breaks between sets! The musicians will be off stage and you can got something other than just performance shots.

    Try taking your macro lens to catch closeups of the equipment...
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4811056297/' title='Lou's Pier 47 - July 18, 2010' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4811056297_ce6c4ba541.jpg']
    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/12672193@N00/4824183943/' title='Tessora's Barra di Vino - July 23, 2010' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4824183943_3fa0e7213e.jpg']

    Or if you have some time with the musicians, get some candid shots - they'll appreciate those as well as the great performance photos. :)

  • Lynn Redmile August 27, 2010 04:05 am

    Fabulous informative articles - thank you SO much! I have been photographing bands (and dancers) for a while, but with zero formal instruction, and you've certainly filled in some gaps in my knowledge!
    I have a couple of questions:
    When hoping to get a band/musician's attention with your photographs, in the hopes of getting a future paying gig, is it best to send images to them watermarked, or not? I'm nervous/cautious about others "stealing" my work from which I'm trying to earn an income.
    Second, I often shoot in a casual environment where there are a number of other photographers shooting (none of us are the named "official" photographer). I believe there is an etiquette of shooting - you shouldn't jump in front of a photographer who has their camera up to their eye ready to shoot, etc. However, it seems that so many photographers don't follow this courtesy. Is it acceptable for me to make a comment to the person who blocked my shot more than once ("hey dude - not cool"), or am I being overly sensitive or lacking in competitiveness?
    Thank you so much for these articles, Rick - and thanks Darren for this always-informative blog!

  • Jeff Closs August 26, 2010 04:50 pm

    I just did my first free/fun concert shoot. A local bar had a hip-hop act playing and some opening acts. I got super good access (love small towns for some things) and managed to get some shots I'm happy with. I had to use no flash though, so these were all ambient @ 3200 ISO. Grainier than I like, but with some PP and BW conversions where it matters I'm happy with my first attempt.

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896945648/' title='Sweatshop Tease 2' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4896945648_43053eb015.jpg']

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896313409/' title='Ill Literate Tease 2' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4896313409_4cf6386622.jpg']

    [eimg link='http://www.flickr.com/photos/suprspi/4896920064/' title='Gemini Tease 1' url='http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4896920064_c6b18df034.jpg']

  • Julie Bernstein August 26, 2010 11:26 am

    Thanks Rick! That second photo was the one in the restaurant with poor lighting; used my 50/1.4 at ISO 1600, 1/30 shutter speed while holding my breath...

  • Rick Bennett August 26, 2010 11:23 am

    @Julie Bernstein: thanks for the plug on the ear plugs. I knew there had to be better ones out there. I'll definitely check those out. I especially like your second drummer sample. That background is cool and rustic. Very nice.

  • Julie Bernstein August 26, 2010 10:27 am

    Just to add to my comment on drummers: Here are three photos from my current Blue Bear School of Music exhibit. Two were taken at a small club and one was shot at a restaurant/bar with very poor lighting. None use flash. All were shot with a Canon 5D Mk II.

    [eimg url='http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v4/p231205021-3.jpg' title='p231205021-3.jpg']

    [eimg url='http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v4/p15314971-3.jpg' title='p15314971-3.jpg']

    [eimg url='http://funcrunch.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v9/p911893450-3.jpg' title='p911893450-3.jpg']

  • Julie Bernstein August 26, 2010 10:08 am

    Good tips on the earplugs and on not forgetting the drummers. For earplugs I use and recommend those from Etymotic Research, which are far superior to those sold in drugstores, as they decrease the decibel level without muffling the sounds of the music. They fit much better than foam earplugs too, with two sizes available. You can get them for less than $20 a pair; great investment.

    When I shoot drummers, I try to get as close to the stage as possible, even leaning on the stage in some cases. Using my 85/1.8 lens I can usually get some good shots (always without flash), with some motion blur from the sticks but otherwise sharp. I often have to crop quite a bit, but hey, that's no problem with a 21mpx camera. :-)

  • Allison Jane August 26, 2010 09:38 am

    I've enjoyed reading this 3-piece set, as a friend of mine has started a band with a few of her friends and I've offered to take some photos of them to help them out. I feel like I am better prepared for this now.

    Thanks for sharing this Rick!

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