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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bough the UK version the Pap Strap.  No problems so far.  Everything is strong.  I always check the mount screw, I think that is just common sense. It hasn&#039;t loosened and I have to say I am very happy with it.  Overall I am thrilled with the design. I would totally recommend them.

I don&#039;t really understand why you are dropping the camera on the thread.  I get the testing it but surely that&#039;s like swingin it around your head, it&#039;s asking for trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bough the UK version the Pap Strap.  No problems so far.  Everything is strong.  I always check the mount screw, I think that is just common sense. It hasn&#8217;t loosened and I have to say I am very happy with it.  Overall I am thrilled with the design. I would totally recommend them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why you are dropping the camera on the thread.  I get the testing it but surely that&#8217;s like swingin it around your head, it&#8217;s asking for trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have not had any more trouble with the actual strap. I am disappointed with Black Rapid because they said they would reimburse me for my cracked filter. I sent them a copy of the receipt that they requested, but still nothing. They also ignore my emails. I am just letting you all know what has happened. I am just disappointed that a company like this with a new product, trying to reach a big audience, would treat a customer like this who lets people know what is going on with the product. I guess they do not care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have not had any more trouble with the actual strap. I am disappointed with Black Rapid because they said they would reimburse me for my cracked filter. I sent them a copy of the receipt that they requested, but still nothing. They also ignore my emails. I am just letting you all know what has happened. I am just disappointed that a company like this with a new product, trying to reach a big audience, would treat a customer like this who lets people know what is going on with the product. I guess they do not care!</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw the strap in use on a friend, I thought the camera hanging looked rather precarious. But, I assumed it was designed to be used like that. I was thinking about it yesterday and about how some watches and bracelets have little &quot;security chains&quot; on them so it doesn&#039;t come off the wrist if it becomes unhooked. It needs to have a small strap that hooks into the camera strap hooks and onto the strap. Of course being able to slide so it doesn&#039;t get in the way. Well, I am starting to ramble on. I am going to the PhotoWalk in Laguna Beach next month so hopefully something will be resolved by then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw the strap in use on a friend, I thought the camera hanging looked rather precarious. But, I assumed it was designed to be used like that. I was thinking about it yesterday and about how some watches and bracelets have little &#8220;security chains&#8221; on them so it doesn&#8217;t come off the wrist if it becomes unhooked. It needs to have a small strap that hooks into the camera strap hooks and onto the strap. Of course being able to slide so it doesn&#8217;t get in the way. Well, I am starting to ramble on. I am going to the PhotoWalk in Laguna Beach next month so hopefully something will be resolved by then!</p>
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		<title>By: George Slusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Slusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the photo of the connector, I would be loathe to use it. The carabiner is a nice touch to solve the latch-gate problem, but another problem might come with the FastenR-2, or, rather, the D-ring. It seems to be essentially a beefed-up version of the D-ring screws used with quick-release plates by Bogen, etc. The D-ring cannot be continuous. It&#039;s a wire or rod bent into shape, with the ends stuck into the holes in the screw.  The way it must be assembled is to either bend the wire/rod into shape, then spring it open and insert the ends in the holes, or perhaps making the last bend (at the top/apex) so that the previously-bend end goes into the hole. 

Depending upon the load, the wire/rod may gradually bend, especially if the camera drops, rather than just hangs. That can increase the force on the ring by a factor of 2-5, easily. (It&#039;s about &quot;g-forces.&quot;) As the wire/rod bends, the angle at which it contacts the edge of the hole may change so that there is a component of force along the length of the wire/rod, as well as across it. That force will tend to cause the wire/rod to slide and it may gradually open, just as the lighter-duty D-rings have done for several. At some point, it could open up and drop the camera. I wonder if the R-Strap manufacturer has done any repeated drop tests (say, 15 lbs dropped from 3-4 ft at least 1,000 times)? It might work if everything is heavy enough, but the design has basic problems. A continuous ring (e.g., a welded circle) might be better. (That&#039;s how heavy-duty chains are made.)

There are two other problems I can see. One minor one is the rubber washer/cushion. Putting something compliant--rubber, cork, etc--between the screw and the camera can easily lead to over-tightening the screw and possibly damage to the tripod mount on the camera. A direct, non-yielding contact will prevent that. (We have the same problem in horseback riding with girths with elastic ends--it&#039;s easy to over-tighten them.) That&#039;s why top-quality quick-release plates (e.g., Kirk, Really Right Stuff, Wimberley) usually do not have cork or rubber between the plate and the body.

More serious, though, is a concern about the design of the tripod mount. I don&#039;t know if the camera manufacturers factored in the camera hanging from the tripod mount and being subjected to impact forces as it will be if the camera is dropped. (Small cameras often have plastic tripod mounts.) The tripod mount normally has the load applied the other way--toward the camera body. Jerking on the tripod mount might damage the tripod mount or even circuitry that&#039;s nearby. The method that I mentioned a bit above uses the camera strap lugs, which were designed to take tension loads and impacts. (Plus, each lug normally takes only about half the load.)

This may be hooey, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the photo of the connector, I would be loathe to use it. The carabiner is a nice touch to solve the latch-gate problem, but another problem might come with the FastenR-2, or, rather, the D-ring. It seems to be essentially a beefed-up version of the D-ring screws used with quick-release plates by Bogen, etc. The D-ring cannot be continuous. It&#8217;s a wire or rod bent into shape, with the ends stuck into the holes in the screw.  The way it must be assembled is to either bend the wire/rod into shape, then spring it open and insert the ends in the holes, or perhaps making the last bend (at the top/apex) so that the previously-bend end goes into the hole. </p>
<p>Depending upon the load, the wire/rod may gradually bend, especially if the camera drops, rather than just hangs. That can increase the force on the ring by a factor of 2-5, easily. (It&#8217;s about &#8220;g-forces.&#8221;) As the wire/rod bends, the angle at which it contacts the edge of the hole may change so that there is a component of force along the length of the wire/rod, as well as across it. That force will tend to cause the wire/rod to slide and it may gradually open, just as the lighter-duty D-rings have done for several. At some point, it could open up and drop the camera. I wonder if the R-Strap manufacturer has done any repeated drop tests (say, 15 lbs dropped from 3-4 ft at least 1,000 times)? It might work if everything is heavy enough, but the design has basic problems. A continuous ring (e.g., a welded circle) might be better. (That&#8217;s how heavy-duty chains are made.)</p>
<p>There are two other problems I can see. One minor one is the rubber washer/cushion. Putting something compliant&#8211;rubber, cork, etc&#8211;between the screw and the camera can easily lead to over-tightening the screw and possibly damage to the tripod mount on the camera. A direct, non-yielding contact will prevent that. (We have the same problem in horseback riding with girths with elastic ends&#8211;it&#8217;s easy to over-tighten them.) That&#8217;s why top-quality quick-release plates (e.g., Kirk, Really Right Stuff, Wimberley) usually do not have cork or rubber between the plate and the body.</p>
<p>More serious, though, is a concern about the design of the tripod mount. I don&#8217;t know if the camera manufacturers factored in the camera hanging from the tripod mount and being subjected to impact forces as it will be if the camera is dropped. (Small cameras often have plastic tripod mounts.) The tripod mount normally has the load applied the other way&#8211;toward the camera body. Jerking on the tripod mount might damage the tripod mount or even circuitry that&#8217;s nearby. The method that I mentioned a bit above uses the camera strap lugs, which were designed to take tension loads and impacts. (Plus, each lug normally takes only about half the load.)</p>
<p>This may be hooey, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, Bridget, others: 
This is making me really nervous now.  How exactly did the strap malfunction?  Did the connector on the bottom of your camera come loose or did the d-ring actually break?  Were you using the supplied connector or a quick-release plate?  Any details you could provide so we don&#039;t have similar mishaps.  I haven&#039;t had any problems yet.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, Bridget, others:<br />
This is making me really nervous now.  How exactly did the strap malfunction?  Did the connector on the bottom of your camera come loose or did the d-ring actually break?  Were you using the supplied connector or a quick-release plate?  Any details you could provide so we don&#8217;t have similar mishaps.  I haven&#8217;t had any problems yet.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a camera fall too. It just ended up cracking the filter which they did say they would reimburse for me, but as of yet, I have not received a check and they do not answer my emails. I am beginning to have my doubts on this device and if I should really be using it. They sent me a new CR-2 hook because of a possible problem they brought to my attention in an email (kind of like a recall). I guess I will just need to check all the connections often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a camera fall too. It just ended up cracking the filter which they did say they would reimburse for me, but as of yet, I have not received a check and they do not answer my emails. I am beginning to have my doubts on this device and if I should really be using it. They sent me a new CR-2 hook because of a possible problem they brought to my attention in an email (kind of like a recall). I guess I will just need to check all the connections often!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently purchased two rapid straps, both of them had latch gate failures and dropped my camera twice, 5K dollars in equipment and caused serious damage to my equipment.  I have tried to get ahold of black rapid to inform them of the problems I had but they never answer their phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently purchased two rapid straps, both of them had latch gate failures and dropped my camera twice, 5K dollars in equipment and caused serious damage to my equipment.  I have tried to get ahold of black rapid to inform them of the problems I had but they never answer their phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you BlackRapid! I finally got my new CR2 Hook today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you BlackRapid! I finally got my new CR2 Hook today!</p>
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		<title>By: George Slusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Slusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firebush makes a very valuable point. The D-ring on the bottom of a quick-release plate is NOT designed to take the weight of the camera but to give a convenient way to tighten the screw. It&#039;s a simple piece of wire bent into shape. The ends stick into the holes on the screw--the wire does not go all the way through. Continually putting weight on the D-ring will gradually bend it out of shape until it pops open as it did for Firebush.

I don&#039;t use a Bogen QR system--it&#039;s too restrictive (one plate is used for everything) and doesn&#039;t give good results with lenses nor in preventing rotation of the camera in portrait mode. Instead, I use the universal, standard Arca-Swiss system (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Markins&lt;/a&gt; and Triopo ballheads, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jobu-design.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jobu&lt;/a&gt; gimbal head) and plates from &lt;a href=&quot;http://reallyrightstuff.com/home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Really Right Stuff&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tripodhead.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wimberley&lt;/a&gt;. Those do not have cork or rubber &quot;cushions,&quot; which can lead to over-tightening of the screw and damage to the camera&#039;s tripod socket or internal circuitry. The RRS plates are custom-made for various camera bodies and battery grips, so they fit snugly and prevent rotation with ridges on the front and/or back of the plate. My favorites are the RRS L-plates for camera bodies (I have them on my Canon 30D and G9) and the WImberley lens plates for collared lenses.

Those who use an Arca-Swiss system and the R-strap might consider getting a good quality clamp (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kirkphoto.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kirk&lt;/a&gt; has very nice clamps, as does RRS) that has a 1/4&quot;-20 threaded hole and mounting it on the R-strap&#039;s bolt, then using the clamp (TIGHT!) to attach the camera. That way, you can quickly move from the R-strap to a tripod or monopod without compromising the security of the R-strap&#039;s bolt. (If you unscrew it and then screw it back in while you&#039;re in a hurry, you may not screw it in securely.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firebush makes a very valuable point. The D-ring on the bottom of a quick-release plate is NOT designed to take the weight of the camera but to give a convenient way to tighten the screw. It&#8217;s a simple piece of wire bent into shape. The ends stick into the holes on the screw&#8211;the wire does not go all the way through. Continually putting weight on the D-ring will gradually bend it out of shape until it pops open as it did for Firebush.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use a Bogen QR system&#8211;it&#8217;s too restrictive (one plate is used for everything) and doesn&#8217;t give good results with lenses nor in preventing rotation of the camera in portrait mode. Instead, I use the universal, standard Arca-Swiss system (<a href="http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/index.php" rel="nofollow">Markins</a> and Triopo ballheads, <a href="http://www.jobu-design.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">Jobu</a> gimbal head) and plates from <a href="http://reallyrightstuff.com/home.html" rel="nofollow">Really Right Stuff</a> and <a href="http://www.tripodhead.com/" rel="nofollow">Wimberley</a>. Those do not have cork or rubber &#8220;cushions,&#8221; which can lead to over-tightening of the screw and damage to the camera&#8217;s tripod socket or internal circuitry. The RRS plates are custom-made for various camera bodies and battery grips, so they fit snugly and prevent rotation with ridges on the front and/or back of the plate. My favorites are the RRS L-plates for camera bodies (I have them on my Canon 30D and G9) and the WImberley lens plates for collared lenses.</p>
<p>Those who use an Arca-Swiss system and the R-strap might consider getting a good quality clamp (<a href="http://www.kirkphoto.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">Kirk</a> has very nice clamps, as does RRS) that has a 1/4&#8243;-20 threaded hole and mounting it on the R-strap&#8217;s bolt, then using the clamp (TIGHT!) to attach the camera. That way, you can quickly move from the R-strap to a tripod or monopod without compromising the security of the R-strap&#8217;s bolt. (If you unscrew it and then screw it back in while you&#8217;re in a hurry, you may not screw it in securely.)</p>
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		<title>By: Firebush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great strap -- I also have the Cameraslinger for use with 2 bodies (overpriced, but extremely well made).  Here is a WORD OF CAUTION to all who use Bogen/Manfrotto RC2 plates:  I just returned from shooting a beach wedding in the North Carolina Outer Banks and right before the ceremony started, the D-ring on the bottom of my RC2 connector plate snapped!  That&#039;s right -- sending my D700 with battery grip and the attached Nikkor 14-24MM 2.8 headlong into the sand!  No time to try to fix it, I just dumped the body to an assistant and shot the whole ceremony with my backup D300 and 24-70MM 2.8.  I have had a chance to look over the camera now and God was looking out -- no visible damage!  Anyway...I am going to use the supplied threaded rings from now on and not my RC2 plate.  There...you&#039;ve all been warned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great strap &#8212; I also have the Cameraslinger for use with 2 bodies (overpriced, but extremely well made).  Here is a WORD OF CAUTION to all who use Bogen/Manfrotto RC2 plates:  I just returned from shooting a beach wedding in the North Carolina Outer Banks and right before the ceremony started, the D-ring on the bottom of my RC2 connector plate snapped!  That&#8217;s right &#8212; sending my D700 with battery grip and the attached Nikkor 14-24MM 2.8 headlong into the sand!  No time to try to fix it, I just dumped the body to an assistant and shot the whole ceremony with my backup D300 and 24-70MM 2.8.  I have had a chance to look over the camera now and God was looking out &#8212; no visible damage!  Anyway&#8230;I am going to use the supplied threaded rings from now on and not my RC2 plate.  There&#8230;you&#8217;ve all been warned!</p>
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