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When you say check tonal values of the scene do you mean on a simplified zone system? so you decide that dress is white but I want it white with detail so that will be +1 2/3 and her skin is white so that should be +1 etc etc and then use your meter to take the shot with those settings?
Just trying to get an idea to help me and maybe others who read this thread understand your process a bit better.
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Sorry to mislead you.
It's nothing as sophisticated as that for me because I can just do a general evaluation in my mind of where the challenges are going to be. If there is a lot of contrast, for instance, I make the appropriate decisions based on what I'm willing to under- or overexpose beyond my established subject. I also have a mental image of the detail I can reclaim while shooting Camera RAW so it's really more of a mental exercise. Doing lighting evaluations on multiple parts of a scene works for some people but I usually don't have the time.
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My reason for the snarky comment was that there you aren't doing any converting here. You are using presets in a plugin that someone else made. They are doing the conversion. You are just going through a list of preset choices and choosing the one that looks best. You see how this isn't really a b&w conversion on your part? I understand the post processing involved before hand is hard work; Tweaking images in camera raw, adjusting exposure to certain parts of the image and such. But the actual b&w conversion is just choosing from a list. The whole program was written to make creating black and whites as easy as choosing a film type and adjusting some sliders for toning. You see how this isn't your conversion process?
I would love to see the results of your work, though, especially compared to the original image and some other b&w conversion methods (like just desaturating it, or using the b&w adjustment layer). I appreciate a good black and white image no matter how it was done.
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thank you.
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Here are a few examples of my work...I don't have the before shots at hand, these are the finished black and whites: ![]() ![]()
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The first and second shots are gorgeous. I actually just saw the hand shot in the how I took it forum.
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For all those with photoshop and gimp you can use grey scale copy of your image set as the layer mask in a new transparent layer set to overlay mode and use the opacity slider to effect how strong it is this will effect the shadows layer needs to be an inverted grey scale copy of your image in the layer mask, for highlights you need a grey scale copy of your image as the layer mask in a new transparent layer. You can use the curves tool on the layer mask to edit the grey scale copy it will be the black in the layer mask that will be where the dodging and burning takes place so adjust your curves to taste. By drawing on the transparent layer on either shadows highlights in black or white will dodge and bur the image in wither just shadow areas or highlight areas.
Just incase anyone was thinking how to control what was being dodged and burned
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