Go Back   Digital Photography School - Photography Forums > General Discussion > General Chit Chat


View Poll Results: Manual Mode vs. Tv vs. Av
Manual 24 70.59%
Av 10 29.41%
Tv 0 0%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 05:50 AM
Optikal iLLusion's Avatar
Learning
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 231
Question When do you....

How many of you shoot in Manual mode the majority of the time you shoot. If you're using other modes such as Av and Tv, why are you picking them over Manual mode? (i.e. the situation you're in vs. convenience)

I have been shooting in Manual since the day I got my camera. Trying different settings to see how things work. Once i became acquainted with the basics of aperture, shutter speed, and ISO it obviously became much easier to decide what setting i should use in a given situation.

I've been watching and reading tutorials lately where people say things referring to Av and Tv mode when doing certain shots. The thought that went through my mind was, "Why use either of those if you are comfortable in Manual?"
__________________
Current Equipment: Canon T3 w/kit lenses, 50mm 1.8 and NEW!!! 24-105mm f/4L
Rocketfish tripod and Lowepro slingshot bag

Slowly but surely.....500px
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 05:55 AM
Bruce A's Avatar
Nah, just kidding!
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gold Coast Qld Australia
Posts: 3,187
Default

I always shoot in manual mode. However, should I have reason to use aperture or shutter priority I wouldn't hesitate for a moment.
__________________
Nikon D700, MB-D10 grip, Nikon AF-s 16-35 f/4 VRll, Nikon AF-s 28-70mm f/2.8D ED, Nikon AF 80-200 f/2.8D ED, Nikon AF-s Micro 105 f/2.8 G ED VR.
My flickr
My500px
banphotography.com
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 05:57 AM
Optikal iLLusion's Avatar
Learning
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 231
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce A View Post
I always shoot in manual mode. However, should I have reason to use aperture or shutter priority I wouldn't hesitate for a moment.

My question is why would you feel the need to change to Av or Tv? What would make you "feel the need" to use either of those over Manual?
__________________
Current Equipment: Canon T3 w/kit lenses, 50mm 1.8 and NEW!!! 24-105mm f/4L
Rocketfish tripod and Lowepro slingshot bag

Slowly but surely.....500px
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 06:39 AM
dPS Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Lawrenceburg, Tennessee USA
Posts: 142
Default

I shot manual from 1970 until the mid-80's when I got a Nikon 8008s with automatic exposure and matrix metering.

The day I shot a back lit scene and the exposure turned out perfect I decided to let the camera do the initial deciding and I would over ride it if necessary.

Since then and to this day I shoot Program with a +/- correction as needed.

Having digital instant review has even made me more confident of my method.

If I am doing portraits and want a shallow depth of field then I may pick Av.

If I am doing sports and I want to keep a certain ability to stop motion I may pick S(Tv).

In both cases I may add auto ISO.

I understand why others may do it differently but I use what works for me.

I went for seven years and shot without a light meter and relied on the sunny 16 rule, negative film(as long as you got detail in the shadows you could print in the highlights), and experience.

if you are shooting in a situation with constant changing light, such as quickly moving clouds, or even scenes that change quickly in their orientation to the light, it is difficult to keep adjusting the light settings to match.

I had rather the camera do as much thinking for me as possible so I can concentrate on capturing the moments I want.

I may use manual in some night situations, shooting HDR, and some flash situations.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 06:45 AM
dPS +1000 Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 4,584
Default

Manual for when lighting conditions are difficult, or the subject itself may cause exposure problems.

Some example using manual, aperture and shutter priority.

#1 The head lights of the cars play havoc with the metering system causing severe under exposure if used on an "auto" mode.
Audi R8 LMS GT3 (3)

Camera Canon EOS 40D
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/320)
Aperture f/5.6
Focal Length 235 mm
ISO Speed 3200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Exposure Program Manual

Aperture or shutter priority when it will do the job especially when there is no time to twiddle knobs.

#2 With sun behind me and around dawn. So really no metering problems.
You don't have time to twiddle knobs when these guys decide to take off.

Let's get out of here.

Camera Canon EOS 40D
Exposure 0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture f/8
Focal Length 350 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias -2/3 EV
Exposure Program Aperture priority

#3 Easy exposure conditions. This is Shot 3 of a sequence that started less than 1 second ago. No time to twiddle knobs and check histograms..

IMG_7369

Camera Canon EOS 40D
Exposure 0.002 sec (1/500)
Aperture f/10
Focal Length 400 mm
ISO Speed 400
Exposure Bias 1/3 EV
Exposure Program Shutter priority


(edit)
A couple of other scenarios when shooting action when you do not want to be shooting manual..
The light is constantly changing due to puffy when clouds floating around (you have two problems - exposure and white balance).
When shooting in pouring rain you may not have easy access to all the controls and histogram due to the wet weather protection for the camera.
__________________
Flickr stream.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34094515@N00/

500pics stream
http://500px.com/Richard_Taylor

Last edited by RichardTaylor; 01-21-2012 at 06:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 06:52 AM
Bruce A's Avatar
Nah, just kidding!
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gold Coast Qld Australia
Posts: 3,187
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Optikal iLLusion View Post
My question is why would you feel the need to change to Av or Tv? What would make you "feel the need" to use either of those over Manual?

If I was in a stuation where the light was constantly changing and I wanted to retain a specific DOF or image sharpness I may use Aperture preferred. Whereas if I needed to freeze action where DOF was no real concern I may use shutter priority in order to keep my eye on the event without worrying about settings and lighting.
__________________
Nikon D700, MB-D10 grip, Nikon AF-s 16-35 f/4 VRll, Nikon AF-s 28-70mm f/2.8D ED, Nikon AF 80-200 f/2.8D ED, Nikon AF-s Micro 105 f/2.8 G ED VR.
My flickr
My500px
banphotography.com
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 06:27 PM
Optikal iLLusion's Avatar
Learning
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 231
Default

Ok. These examples are the best I've had yet. RichardTaylor, you always have good examples and explanations behind your decision. Just trying to understand
__________________
Current Equipment: Canon T3 w/kit lenses, 50mm 1.8 and NEW!!! 24-105mm f/4L
Rocketfish tripod and Lowepro slingshot bag

Slowly but surely.....500px
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 08:13 PM
Dont change this!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Optikal iLLusion View Post
I have been shooting in Manual since the day I got my camera. Trying different settings to see how things work. Once i became acquainted with the basics of aperture, shutter speed, and ISO it obviously became much easier to decide what setting i should use in a given situation.

The thought that went through my mind was, "Why use either of those if you are comfortable in Manual?"
When you say comfortable in Manual, what are you using for metering?....

If you have a look at the conditions and then say, well at this focal length I need f5.6 and 1/50th to do what I need, then fine, use manual.

If you are using your camera's metering system to determine that you are in the right ball park, then I would say "Why on earth are you using Manual?..."

If you are using in camera metering, then whether you have the dial set to M, A, S, P , the camera is determining your exposure. If you think its got it wrong, or going to get it wrong, and you apply +/- correction in A S or P modes then thats exactly the same as choosing to open the aperture, or slow the shutterspeed, its just the camera is doing it for you.

There are some situations where I use my camera in manual mode. These are:

using multiple off camera strobes

long exposure/night/low light photography

The rest of the time I shoot in A mode 95% of the time, as not much of what I shoot moves, or moves quickly at least.

If you are using your cameras metering, you have to set at least two parameters, to my one, basically wasting valueable shooting time IMO.

Sometimes things are happening so fast in front of me, that if I want a chance of capturing it, clicking to P mode, or even AUTO is the best option... and I hate people who use AUTO, even me when I do it, but sometimes, needs must....
__________________
Sony Alpha 77 and 100 with a variety of lenses
Lightroom 4 /Photoshop CS5

My Flickr
500px
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 08:46 PM
Biomech's Avatar
World Commended
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 2,234
Default

I use the minimum required. It's usually A so I have more control over the DOP and sharpness of the image. If it's action or fast moving I'll use S. If it's still life / portraiture I'll use manual
__________________
Art: www.jamieorourke.co.uk
Work: www.jamieorourkephotography.co.uk
Work: Photo booth Hire in the West Midlands, and Wales
Sony a200 Sony a580, Canon 500D, Photobooth
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2012, 09:58 PM
Doug Sundseth's Avatar
Not quite older than dirt
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Thornton, Colorado, USA
Posts: 1,570
Default

In studio, it's all manual, all the time. Out in the wild, shooting wildlife and landscapes, especially right around dawn and sunset, when the light is changing fast but your eye doesn't notice quickly, it's either A or S, depending on the subject. (With frequent changes to ISO, to boot.)
__________________
Flickr
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

What’s Your Preference?

Daily Digest

Each day we send out a quick email to thousands of DPS readers to notify them of updates. This email is just short excerpt of the first few lines of our latest post with a link if you want to read it all. You can unsubscribe from this this service at any time.

This service is provided by a third party (Feedburner) and you can subscribe to it by leaving your email address in the following field and confirming your subscription when you get an email asking you to do so.

Enter your email address for
Daily Updates:

Weekly Summary

For those wanting a weekly summary of what happens on this site this free email newsletter is probably your best option. It includes a summary of the tips posted to the site each week. This newsletter is subscribed to by over 25000 readers (many who also subscribe to the other options above) - come join the community!

To subscribe to this weekly newsletter simply add your email address to the following field and then follow the confirmation prompts. You will be able to unsubscribe at any time.

Enter your email address for
Free Weekly Newsletter:

 
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0