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  • #46
    Hey Izzy.. hey are you a UER member by chance? If not, drop me a message. I've been doing this for some time as well and is definitely what keeps my passion in photography.

    For those not familiar with Urbex and it's ethics... essentially it's documenting places that are forgotten and the main rule is "take only photos, leave only footprints". The majority of the people involved are interested in preserving or at least documenting examples of a bygone area. There have been so many places lost to vandalism that its a shame. Here is one example, Buffalo State Hospital - Kirkbride Buildings - the building had a fire (most likely) purposefully started by someone. Most likely bored kids... Keeping them "secret" doesn't mean not talking about them, but it does mean NOT publicizing them to the general public. Most people won't get that though so I wouldn't be too mad about it, maybe point her in the direction of some organized resources.

    I'm too far away from you Izzy but if you are up in Wis, I know there were a few "large" brewery's that were worth the trouble to access but, apparently, security has really been stepped up. I can give you some additional info if you like.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Brian Mullins View Post
      Hey Izzy.. hey are you a UER member by chance? If not, drop me a message. I've been doing this for some time as well and is definitely what keeps my passion in photography.

      For those not familiar with Urbex and it's ethics... essentially it's documenting places that are forgotten and the main rule is "take only photos, leave only footprints". The majority of the people involved are interested in preserving or at least documenting examples of a bygone area. There have been so many places lost to vandalism that its a shame. Here is one example, Buffalo State Hospital - Kirkbride Buildings - the building had a fire (most likely) purposefully started by someone. Most likely bored kids... Keeping them "secret" doesn't mean not talking about them, but it does mean NOT publicizing them to the general public. Most people won't get that though so I wouldn't be too mad about it, maybe point her in the direction of some organized resources.

      I'm too far away from you Izzy but if you are up in Wis, I know there were a few "large" brewery's that were worth the trouble to access but, apparently, security has really been stepped up. I can give you some additional info if you like.
      Hey Brian. You are about an hour from me. Shoot me a pm. I may be interested in hooking up at some point. I still have no balls, but might be more inclined using the buddy system.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by SwissJon View Post
        You know this thread is very interesting.. I work quite regularly with security systems in information technology, and the techniques you're describing to gain entry to places where you shouldn't be, for what ever reason, are very similar to the techniques that are irregularly used to access hi security information systems..People are much softer targets than a firewall.. It's amazing how much money is spent on high security systems just to be let down by people stupidity.. If you had to put a card in a slot to enter somewhere, you'd get into far fewer places.
        Isnt that called "social engineering"?
        There's a funny example of it on the movie "hackers" from the 90s, where the kid talks a bumbling guard into giving him the number to the modem so he can dial in. Love that movie (and not because Angelina Jolie is topless....)
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Brian Mullins View Post
          Hey Izzy.. hey are you a UER member by chance? If not, drop me a message. I've been doing this for some time as well and is definitely what keeps my passion in photography.

          For those not familiar with Urbex and it's ethics... essentially it's documenting places that are forgotten and the main rule is "take only photos, leave only footprints". The majority of the people involved are interested in preserving or at least documenting examples of a bygone area. There have been so many places lost to vandalism that its a shame. Here is one example, Buffalo State Hospital - Kirkbride Buildings - the building had a fire (most likely) purposefully started by someone. Most likely bored kids... Keeping them "secret" doesn't mean not talking about them, but it does mean NOT publicizing them to the general public. Most people won't get that though so I wouldn't be too mad about it, maybe point her in the direction of some organized resources.

          I'm too far away from you Izzy but if you are up in Wis, I know there were a few "large" brewery's that were worth the trouble to access but, apparently, security has really been stepped up. I can give you some additional info if you like.
          Yep a UER member. Don't post on there much right now. I did post some from the recent ghost town in NM. I suppose I should go back and see what anyone had to say about them. Plan to post more as time allows, more like when I get off my lazy duff.

          I have family in Wake Forest if you have a closed hospital or even better sanitarium near you I could find the reason to travel and do the buddy system. I have been doing this a bit but hard cores would still call me a tourist. It is every bit as far as NM and New Orleans so what the heck....
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          • #50
            I did not know there was a name for it. There are several people in the DFW area that like to do the Urban exploration thing. Sometimes that mean trespassing, at night, into dangerous locations. I've been one one of those.

            I agree with your comment because many times the masses do not understand and respect the location. Artist, such as yourself, try to capture the moment or a feeling from the locale. Many of the masses just trample over everything and complain. As a result, yes, land owners and municipalities erect fences to keep the riff-raff out.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by UlpilotSC View Post
              Isnt that called "social engineering"?
              There's a funny example of it on the movie "hackers" from the 90s, where the kid talks a bumbling guard into giving him the number to the modem so he can dial in. Love that movie (and not because Angelina Jolie is topless....)
              Kevin Mitnick, "The Art of Deception."

              Go read it.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by jdepould View Post
                Kevin Mitnick, "The Art of Deception."

                Go read it.
                Agreed.

                Loved that book. Probably a bit embellished in parts, but the main points are very true.
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                • #53
                  web urbanist

                  Another interesting web site is the web urbanist. Part of their series is of abandoned structures around the world
                  The (WU)ltimate 33-Part Guide to Abandoned Places | WebUrbanist
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by UlpilotSC View Post
                    Isnt that called "social engineering"?
                    There's a funny example of it on the movie "hackers" from the 90s, where the kid talks a bumbling guard into giving him the number to the modem so he can dial in. Love that movie (and not because Angelina Jolie is topless....)
                    Yeah... Or wet hacking.. The "bumbling guard" is the norm, not the exception I'm afraid.. When someone offers penetration testing on a system, if they don't take the soft targets into account then they're not doing their job properly.. About half the people I ring up are willing to give me their password.. This includes the accountants.. And some of our remote offices have unencrypted Excel spreadsheets with every password sitting there on their network.

                    Like I said.. the concepts used to gain entry for this draw a lot of parallels to those used by hackers.. Which used to be, I guess, taggers and graffiti artists, they are now much more akin to the copper thieves.
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                    • #55
                      What an interesting subject to focus on! I love looking at pictures of the past and wondering what happened when people were there and why they left. And most new buildings are nowhere near as interesting to look at as those from 50+ years ago.
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                      • #56
                        I also go out exploring when I can, old houses mainly..almost got locked into a building downtown that was being renovated....
                        It is amazing what gets left behind sometimes...
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