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    Hello All!

    So I've been into photography for about 4 years now and I'm 17 years old. I don't consider myself a professional. But people really like my work. Anyway, I knew this time would come someday and I should've been ready with an answer...but alas, I was not. SO, I just got asked if I do senior portraits and if so, how much do I charge. I don't have a clue how to charge for senior portraits! And I need to get back to this girl asap because she is asking on account of herself and two of her friends. That'd be three people! Anyway, since I'm not the best of the best...I don't want to charge outrageously...what would be a GOOD deal to charge? $100? Or how does it work. Like $60 for a one hour session and maybe $125 for a two hour session? I have no idea how it works. So please help me as soon as you can!

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    Given that as recently as November you were asking beginner level questions about external flash coupled with your own statement:
    have no idea how it works. So please help me as soon as you can!
    the best advice I can give is "don't, until you do have an idea how it works."

    All that said, $100 for a session sounds low if your work is up to snuff. If it's not up to snuff, you don't have any business charging for it to begin with.
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    • #3
      Jim Poor, I really like you. Great response and well said!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jim Poor View Post
        All that said, $100 for a session sounds low if your work is up to snuff. If it's not up to snuff, you don't have any business charging for it to begin with.
        I am curious, at what point do you know your up to snuff?

        You think you have learned everything about photography? Or you have people looking at your work and think it is very good, enough to ask if you would shoot for them?
        Or you just say you are, and charge $800 for a Portrait session?

        I think there are a lot of new photographers that wonder about this.
        At what point am I up to snuff? when should I charge people that want me to take pictures for them? I am not asking this to be mean or rude, I think it is a good question.

        If your stuff is up to snuff, what would be a starting range to charge?

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        • #5
          +1 what Jim said..

          What I'd do is contact a local photographer (a good one of course) and say "hey, I have three potential clients, if I can get you these three can I be there while you work with them as I'm an aspiring photographer who wants to learn".. and see how it goes. You definitely need some experience before charging based on your comments here in the past.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scottie_the_Rebel View Post
            I am curious, at what point do you know your up to snuff?

            You think you have learned everything about photography? Or you have people looking at your work and think it is very good, enough to ask if you would shoot for them?
            Or you just say you are, and charge $800 for a Portrait session?

            I think there are a lot of new photographers that wonder about this.
            At what point am I up to snuff? when should I charge people that want me to take pictures for them? I am not asking this to be mean or rude, I think it is a good question.

            If your stuff is up to snuff, what would be a starting range to charge?
            One key marker (imho) is when you know how to use flash to the point that you can choose not to use it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Scottie_the_Rebel View Post
              I am curious, at what point do you know your up to snuff?

              You think you have learned everything about photography? Or you have people looking at your work and think it is very good, enough to ask if you would shoot for them?
              Or you just say you are, and charge $800 for a Portrait session?

              I think there are a lot of new photographers that wonder about this.
              At what point am I up to snuff? when should I charge people that want me to take pictures for them? I am not asking this to be mean or rude, I think it is a good question.

              If your stuff is up to snuff, what would be a starting range to charge?

              Does anyone ever know for sure that they are up to snuff before they get started? Probably not, if we're honest. However, a lack of basic knowledge of foundational photography techniques is a pretty good indicator that it's not time.
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              Jim
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              • #8
                If these are friends of yours, or close to it, do it as TFP. You dont charge them, but get the experience and the photos for your own portfolio and they get prints and or copies for themselves.

                Its a win/win that way.
                Let them know before hand you are just starting out and learning, That way the expectations are not very high, they can still have them done by a local pro and pay for them, but this way you also get some experience out of it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scottie_the_Rebel View Post
                  I am curious, at what point do you know your up to snuff?
                  When you don't have to ask "how much should I charge?" on a forum.

                  When you're ready to charge you should already have the confidence with your equipment and technique, and should have done enough reading and research to know how to implement a business plan.
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                  • #10
                    I can't wait until I'm a pro so that I can be rude, arrogant and condescending. I've seen it daily on this forum and I am tired of seeing it. We come here to ask questions and bounce ideas and learn and if we aren't the end all be all of photography knowledge then we have no business receiving a dollar? BS.

                    Why is the beginning wage of a new photographer always "free?"
                    If you have a portfolio - and I know you do - they've obviously seen it. If you name your price, whether its free and charge for prints or $20 or $50 or $400 - charge what you feel your work is worth and if they like your portfolio and also feel you are worth that amount then they will hire you.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by royey123 View Post

                      Why is the beginning wage of a new photographer always "free?"

                      It isn't, or at least it shouldn't be. You'll find that most of us rail against working for free.
                      Last edited by Jim Poor; 02-25-2011, 12:30 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jim Poor View Post
                        Isn't, or at least it shouldn't be. You'll find that most of us rail against working for free.
                        no it shouldn't be free, however apparently some of us do work for free...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by royey123 View Post
                          I can't wait until I'm a pro so that I can be rude, arrogant and condescending. I've seen it daily on this forum and I am tired of seeing it. We come here to ask questions and bounce ideas and learn and if we aren't the end all be all of photography knowledge then we have no business receiving a dollar? BS.
                          You know something? I wasnt going to comment on this, but it rattled around my mind for the next 10 minutes and it left me feeling pretty annoyed.

                          I'm glad that people such as yourself are reading daily on how to improve all aspects of your photography, and truly I wish you well, every single one of you...

                          ..however, to make a post like this lambasting the 'pro's' for being "rude, arrogant and condescending" is atrocious, and I take exception to it.

                          If you do read this forum daily, you'll recognize that the same questions are asked, from the same population of people, almost on a daily basis. It is also the same people giving the same answers to those same questions.

                          Taking time to look through the threads before posting the question, or heaven forbid using the search function, would easily elicit the advice you need. Does it apply to everyone? 9 out of 10 times yes.

                          Is it so hard for you to understand that over the course of time, these same "rude arrogant and condescending" pro's may actually get a little tired of repeating the same advice on a daily basis? Even more so when usually the poster either never comes back, or if they do, they don't like what they hear?

                          Of course these pro's have the option of not replying, but is that really what you want? Remember, no one is paying them for their time and advice, often derived form years of experience and time spent reading and learning?

                          If you feel the need to express your view dripping in sarcasm because you see this happening every day, why should they not be allowed to get chafed by having to read and respond to the same questions every day?

                          When responses are harsh, it's because it does people no good to sugar coat things. They get a sugar coated opinion from their family and friends (usually the reason that they want to become a pro in the first place); it does them no good at all to repeat the same inane platitudes.

                          If someone goes ahead and charges before they're ready they run not only the risk of ruining a shoot for a client, but also risk ruining their reputation before they even have one. They run the risk of setting up a business that is doomed to failure because they havent taken the time to research the issues carefully.

                          Though your camera may come with a manual, and may have an auto mode, businesses do not have manuals, and definitely do not have auto buttons.

                          Now, I'm sorry if you feel my response to you was disrespectful, however, these threads complaining about the conduct of those offering valuable, legitimate advice on this forum are becoming so frequent that I personally am reaching the point where I wonder whether it's worth the 10 minutes to type up a response in the first place.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Niresangwa View Post
                            You know something? I wasnt going to comment on this, but it rattled around my mind for the next 10 minutes and it left me feeling pretty annoyed.
                            EXACTLY why I responded the way I did!

                            It's good to hear the rebuttal, and you're right - my first thought as I was reading your response was "then why respond at all if they are tired of giving the same responses" so I am glad you offered the other side. At the same time we'd be annoyed if no one responded at all, right?

                            The same as it is frustrating to watch us rookies post our lame questions to this "school" I now understand how frustrating it is for the teachers to answer the same questions over and over - without being able to rap our knuckles.

                            The beauty of a forum. We can agree to disagree yet I do "understand."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Niresangwa View Post
                              If you feel the need to express your view dripping in sarcasm because you see this happening every day, why should they not be allowed to get chafed by having to read and respond to the same questions every day?

                              When responses are harsh, it's because it does people no good to sugar coat things. They get a sugar coated opinion from their family and friends (usually the reason that they want to become a pro in the first place); it does them no good at all to repeat the same inane platitudes.
                              Steve, your posts lately have me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside questioning the fact whether I'm attracted to you because you're so f'ing spot on.

                              royey, if us grumpy "pros" (which I'm not by the way..well the 'pro' part that is) didn't reply... just whom would give that advice? I don't really see any other advice on this thread that was actually helpful that wasn't also a bit harsh.. do you? Do you actually think your non-rude or arrogant or condescending advice to charge what she thinks she's worth even though it's obvious she has not clue where to start is more helpful?

                              Best advice I've ever gotten in life, whether it be in my personal, professional, or photographic life, has been the most honestly blunt... sugar coating people is what gets them to show up on shows like American Idol to be laughed at because their fam and friends were nice to them instead of.. honest?

                              How about this... it's now your job to counter all those comments you take issue with with your advice.. and let the OP figure out which actually helps them. I hope you're right more often than we are so we can post less.

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