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    When did you start your business?
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    Hi jfeely,

    How to start a small business generally varies from state to state. I would recommend you contact a local Small Business Development Center and speak with them (their services are all free).

    In IL, if you are a sole proprietor, the only thing you need to do to "register" your business is to file an assumed name notice at your county clerk's office. You will need to get a state tax ID number if you will sell products (i.e prints) for which you must collect sales tax, and/or if you have employees. If you hire employees, you'll also need a federal tax number (FEIN), which you can obtain online. Sitting/session fees are not taxable because they are a service.

    Your SBDC will be able to assist with these and any other questions relative to forms required in your area.

    Hope this helps and best of luck with you new endeavor.

    PS: I checked out your blog, and think your photos are very nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfeely View Post
    Hey thanks for the advice. I am in the State of Washington so I am sure things are different out here. I dont plan on hiring employees, but obviously selling digital negatives and prints are a must. Maybe someone who knows Washington's laws can offer some advice...glad you like the pictures
    No problem! The link I provided for the SBDC is a list of those in Washington state, so perhaps you can find one close to you.
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    Hey I live in the State of Washington and I would love to know the answer to that too. I have the State Business License. All it says is to report taxes annually in January.
    I have not started charging yet either but it is not far away.
    Please let me know what you find out!
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    Sorry to pop your balloon, but your photography will need to improve if you are going to charge people money. You cannot cut tops of heads off,or amputate hands,or other body parts,and for portraits you must concentrate on the eyes. You are looking at $ 250 an image,whether passport size, or 6 feet by 4 feet (you are not selling square inches of paper,you are selling,experience,expertise,creativity etc., for instance, a 3-year tertiary course in photographic imaging will cost you around $20,000 ,and this has to be regained from your clients) Regards,Ken (Kenneth William Caleno (dip Phot)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kencaleno View Post
    Sorry to pop your balloon, but your photography will need to improve if you are going to charge people money. You cannot cut tops of heads off,or amputate hands,or other body parts,and for portraits you must concentrate on the eyes.
    Your not that far off. The photos have a very distinct and modern style and I'm sure people will pay for them. I like them.

    You do seem to have slight attraction to cutting the tops off peoples heads though. I don't think you necessarily need to do a 3 year couse in photography but a few day/week courses with experinced snappers would be money well spent if you are going to take this seriously. You would do the same in any other industry to keep honing your skills so why not photography.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletch View Post
    Your not that far off. The photos have a very distinct and modern style and I'm sure people will pay for them. I like them.

    You do seem to have slight attraction to cutting the tops off peoples heads though. I don't think you necessarily need to do a 3 year couse in photography but a few day/week courses with experinced snappers would be money well spent if you are going to take this seriously. You would do the same in any other industry to keep honing your skills so why not photography.

    By the way, Fletch, I wasn't advocating the original poster taking a 3-year course,but,pointing out to charge enough to cover any possible photo education(which is obviously needed in this case),and to be able to charge as such,you need to know basic portrait photography,for which I would point the original poster at http://www.msnusers.com/Asktheolepro...ezeltsman.msnw (which is a 16 chapter Free onlime course on Classical portraiture,posing and lighting )

    This is the trouble with Digital cameras-anybody believes that by purchasing a digital camera,they immediately become photographers,where, in reality, most just become "Camera owners". I find this so often in stock photography sites,where some people get extremely upset when their images are rejected-their usual outburst is something like-" My photos must be good,I'm using a XYZ camera and a ABC lens,and all my friends are telling me how good my images are." Photography has Two Phases "Making" and "Taking" - You "Make" a photographic image with your mind and eye, before you ever grab a camera and "Take" that image- You never ask a painter where he buys his brushes.
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    Tax laws in the states are much stricter than they are up here.

    In canada, as long as one is making less than 10k a year and is not living solely off the income of a small business, the owner does not need to have it registered nor does he/she need a tax number.

    Registering a business in Canada is quite expensive: getting a tax number is even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kencaleno View Post
    This is the trouble with Digital cameras-anybody believes that by purchasing a digital camera,they immediately become photographers,where, in reality, most just become "Camera owners". I find this so often in stock photography sites,where some people get extremely upset when their images are rejected-their usual outburst is something like-" My photos must be good,I'm using a XYZ camera and a ABC lens,and all my friends are telling me how good my images are." Photography has Two Phases "Making" and "Taking" - You "Make" a photographic image with your mind and eye, before you ever grab a camera and "Take" that image- You never ask a painter where he buys his brushes.
    Regards, Ken
    While I don't necessarily subscribe to Kens delivery (ha! you're as subtle as a brick in the head, Ken) I do tend to agree that with the onslaught of digital cameras came a wave of new "photography businesses"

    Not saying you're not right to start your own - just that it's worth taking on board the advice given.

    I have come across some really horrific "photography businesses" in the last few months, websites that really don't sell the photographer... out of focus, bad composition, poor lighting...

    I thought about starting to offer a portrait service to my local area, not sure i'm ready either... time will tell

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    Moved to "Earning" forum.

    Not being in the business side of photography I have little to add to the above posts.

    However, I believe discussions of style and ability are not what the OP asked for. Sometimes those qualities can be more a matter of opinion and decisions are made by clients and what they prefer. But I agree all photographers need to be constantly honing their craft. We should never fall into the trap of doing the same thing the same way over and over.

    Now back to the discussion of the business side of photography.
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